Out of curiosity, do you ever actually respond directly to any statement? I believe you're a lawyer, right? Is it like standard lawyer practice to never actually talk anything relevant? I never said the Rockets ruined Yao's millions of dollars. I said they ruined his career. You know, it's possible to give someone lots of money and still screw them health-wise. Just ask any retired NFL player.
If you're going to tell me to STFU, at least read the first paragraph of the OP post. You know, so you can understand that I was talking of the Rockets and not the entire NBA. Then again, it just may be that you don't actually know that the Spurs and the Suns are both also in the NBA. If so, I apologize for assuming you have reading problems.
Indeed, my memory must be hazy in my old age. I forgot that had the Rockets had not kept the #1 pick to take him, he'd never have an NBA career. But just to jog my memory, can you be a little dear and google me articles which states how the Rockets were the only team to give Yao a chance to play in the NBA?
I guess the reading problems go both ways if the Spurs are your model, because Tim Duncan played more minutes in his rookie season than Yao ever has in his entire life. Same for his second season (on average, since it was the strike year) Same for his third season. Same for his fourth season. Same for his fifth season. Same for his sixth season. in fact, over his first 6 seasons, by age 26, he had played more minutes than Yao's entire career (17,000 vs. 15,000). But your premise - that had Yao not played basketball, his career of not playing basketball would be longer - is undoubtedly correct! They were the only team that gave him a chance to play. And they gave him every chance.
Wrong, at least as regards JVG. Jeff was out in front on feet - see http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4242600.html http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=118685&pp=20
Ah? Duncan plays more mins than Yao so what? i believe alot PGs played much more mins than Duncan. they are not same in size. the comparison is meaningless. the point bringing in Duncan argument is to point out that some team has a good adjustment on player health wise. like resting Duncan even he could play. and Rockets is the only team gave Yao a chance to play in NBA? Im lost. PS: i dont totally agree with the poster either, i dont think Rockets should take full responsibility on Yao's career. in my opion, Yao has a size that no one fully understand it. Yao was slim when he first came in NBA. he was healthy, had good mobility and skill set but soft. then special program taken thru for Yao to build up and dominate the paint, and thats what broke down him, his body cant support that weight. however, can u really blame the program, the idea to build up him? maybe it is possible that suns or spurs doc could realise at some early point that Yao need more rest than too late like the rockets doc did. but its only a possiblity, after all, no team no one ever has experience to treat a body like Yao's.
The spurs didn't rest Duncan, they played him as much as they possibly could - almost or over 40 minutes a night until he reached his late 20's, then dropped him down to mid 30's, then finally under 30 this year. That's what happens when you're a franchise player. You play franchise player minutes. Yao by contrast started at 29, gradually worked his up towards the lower to mid 30's, then fell apart. He only had one season where he was playing true franchise player minutes (2008, 37) and even then he only played 55 games.
wow....single stupidest thread in clutchfans history. could it be more obvious the op is a yof? the commie chinese cost yao his career not the rockets.
meh, you've outdone yourself with this gem. will you still be posting threads here when Yao is retired? i don't know how many times i've posted the stats about men who played at 7'5" and larger in the NBA. all of their career trajectories look the same....out of the league by mid-30's...limited minutes by their early-30's. all of them had injury issues. and none of the others racked up the kind of minutes yao did, exacerbated by not having a break in the summer. I've posted the comments of orthopedic surgeon, Dr. Kenneth First, who points all of this out and says that, in his opinion, men at that size just aren't built for long careers in the NBA.
good point. that is the way you should argue with. not comparing these two guys in absolute playing time. not same size, different stories. but again comes to this question, what is "franchise player minutes"? who where and how defined "franchise player mins"? franchise PGs, franchise Centers cant be same of playing time right? so again, Yao is special in physical size. what is the standard playing time for him to be franchise player? or he will never be becoz of his body could not reach a normal size decent center playing time? and again, the team tried to treat his size like other franchise Centers, play him like other franchise Centers. then his body failed, whos fault? PS: sorry for my english hahaha, i dun even know the word "franchise" lol. i saw it alot on forum, i guess its meaning "decent" or some positive adj?
I think I ride Morey and KMart's nut more than Yao's. So not sure what you're talking about, unless you just visit Yao threads because you're a closet YOF. Also, this was actually just a joke thread in response to the "Yao destroyed this season" thread. I didn't mean to make it serious. But due to the stupidity of the responses, I figured I had to turn it into a real thread. Yes, which is why the Rockets decides to spend Yao's "limited minutes" by playing him 80+ games a season, 30+mpg all the while knowing he plays and practice in the summer and get no rest. Basically, you're saying that the team who went through the Ralph Sampson career and didn't learn from their mistake. Isn't that, I don't know, both stupid and irresponsible? If Everyone and their mothers know that Yao can't play long, why would they play him in "low leverage" situations like every regular season game? Rather than saving him each year for the playoffs more? Or prolong his career long enough so they can build a decent team around him? If anything, if the Rockets DIDN'T see this coming, they'd be blameless. The fact that they and everyone else did is what makes it so bad.
I'm not sure what your point is. Duncan is 6-11, Yao is 7-5. And everyone knows, even casual Rockets fans, that Yao due to his size is more injury-prone than Duncan as a sub-seven-footer. Duncan also didn't have national team obligations every summer. If the threshold for young Duncan is 40mpg and SA played him 39mpg, they limited him. If the threshold for young Yao is 25mpg, and limit him to non-back-to-backs, and the Rockets played him 30mpg for 80 games, they still overused him. The point is that SA actively limit their player minutes for low leverage games like the regular season. In order to extend their careers and keep them fresh for the playoffs. The Rockets played Yao for 40 minutes in games where they win by 15.
Now you have completely lost me, meh. I had a great deal of respect for you prior to this insulting absurdity, but now I don't know. You're saying that this started out as a joke, but now you have decided "to turn it into a real thread." For what purpose? To piss off countless Rockets and Yao fans who have suffered over the last several years with his injuries and the toll it has taken on the TEAM? What on earth are you thinking? You're insulting the intelligence of the fans here with this crap. If you had any sense, you'd ask a mod to lock this "joke" and work on saving your reputation. Seriously, and with all due respect. You've lost it. And the topper, at least for me, is that I have a strong belief that Yao would ardently disagree with you. He recently said that he's going to try to come back again and as a Rocket. This is the statement of a guy who thinks the team "ruined" him? Give me a ****ing break!
And that's why Duncan played 20% more minutes in the regular season, on average, and played an extra 12-20 games per season at 40 mpg in the Playoffs and played on multiple US National Teams (five of them in fact). LOL, if the threshold for young healthy Yao is 25 minutes per game - according to your completely arbitrary decision - that means your starting Center who makes $15mm max salary is a 20 mpg off-the-bench role player by age 27. How does this benefit anybody? That's just silliness. So this comes down to you making the unremarkable point that SA played their starters less in the regular season than they did in the playoffs....just like the Rockets and every other single team in the NBA.
