Any reasonable person would see the factual circumstances being the basis of such a sexist joke and understand that part of the factual circumstances included the 14 year old girl. It is unfortunate some get excited about this as part of a joke cloaked in supposed ignorance.
so when the late night audience heard the joke, television and studio, they factually knew it was actually the 14 year old at the game
i'm not disputing it, stop arguing just to argue. how does admitting he makes fun of everyone equally translate that he wasn't a meanie to sarah. stop putting words in my mouth, stop arguing to argue, stop trying to prove whatever point you're trying to prove because i have no idea what it is. please.
You "loved" people claiming he is a liberal. That means you think it is laughable that someone would thing that. Then you specifically disputed he is a meanie to "wingers", yet Palin is a winger.
No. but if I base such a joke on factual circumstances as Letterman did, then I ensure I'm NOT ignorant of pertinent facts...otherwise it absolutely comes across as an expanded attack towards a 14 year old girl. Not acceptable.
Any reasonable person who understood comedy, and the connections of the joke would assume it was the 18 year old daughter who had already been knocked up. They would not assume it was the 14 year old who had no history of being pregnant. Again, you can argue in favor of political correctness all you want, but I'll never be in favor of it.
no i didn't, I already explained to you that I don't care that he is liberal, I already explained that reason I don't care is that he makes fun of people equally. okay my bad, I meant to say that he isn't just a meanie to "wingers", is the prosecution satisfied
all of those happened during or way before the election. And if you cannot remember all of the sexism calls during the election just use the search feature.
Any reasonable person would understan Letterman is guilty of gross ignorance. True. Any reasonable person would understand that this has connected factual circumstance to a 14 year old girl. Most reasonable people understand or should understand sexism should never be acceptable. Otherwise we weaken the reasons for racism to not be acceptable, or any prejudiced exclusions. I believe our society will and should treat women better than this but the question is when...
Good one, Groogrux. I'm pasting the content here for ROXRAN. It appears he is going to have to go for a whole hell of a lot of throats. 10) Last September, a skit on Saturday Night Live suggested incest in the Palin family. "What about the husband?" asked a mock Times reporter. "You know he's doing those daughters. I mean, come on. It's Alaska!" No outrage. Sarah Palin appeared on the show one month later in late October. 9) Days after the announcement of Bristol's pregnancy, Conan O'Brien joked, "It's true, John McCain's running mate, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, has revealed that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant. Palin said, 'We should never have introduced her to John Edwards.'" Where was the outrage? Was Conan promoting infidelity with an underage girl? 8 ) From two different Tonight Shows: "Governor Palin announced over the weekend that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant. Oh, boy, you thought John Edwards was in trouble before, now he's really done it!" AND..."All the Republicans are heaping praise on Governor Palin. Fred Thompson said, as an actor, he could see them making a movie about Sarah Palin and her family. Didn't they already make that movie? I think it was called 'Knocked Up!'"--Jay Leno 7) Craig Ferguson's skit of "Larry King vs Levi Johnston" asks about "kinky sex" with the drapes open. Craig Ferguson's honorary Alaska citizenship, granted by Governor Palin wasn't rescinded. 6) "According to expense reports, Sarah Palin charged the state of Alaska over $21,000 for her children to travel with her on official business. In fairness to Gov. Palin, when she leaves them home alone they get pregnant." --Seth Meyers (SNL). Sarah Palin was in a sketch with Meyers a week earlier. 5) On October 8, 2008, Sarah Palin walked out on the ice with six year old Piper and 13 year old Willow, before the game, Conan O'Brien said, "Saturday night, Sarah Palin is going to drop the first puck at the Philadelphia Flyers' hockey game. Then Palin will spend the rest of the game trying to keep the hockey players out of her daughter's penalty box." Oh, yes he did. You get the outrage...but not a peep then. According to the new "logic", O'Brien was advocating for some really sick stuff. 4) Rush Limbaugh: "Everyone knows the Clintons have a cat. Socks is the White House cat. But did you know there is a White House dog?" Limbaugh put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. At the time, Chelsea Clinton was 13 years old. Rush also said, "In last year's campaign, the most prominent, articulate voice for standard run-of-the-mill good old-fashioned American conservatism was Sarah Palin." Calling a young teenager a "dog" can't be helpful to her "self-esteem." Where is the apology from the leader of the GOP? 3) "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."--John McCain, Sarah Palin's running mate. Should McCain apologize to every young woman in America? 2) Palin's friend, political defender and informer of the David Letterman comments, John Ziegler, was fired from his radio show for using the "n-word" online and on air in 1997. In 2000, he was fired for spelling the "n-word" on the air. How much does that word affect the psychological health of America's youth, regardless of their race? Now he is pimping his film about how mean the "liberal media" was to Sarah Palin. AND...The NUMBER 1 REASON Sarah Palin's Outrage is Misplaced and A Little Late... 1) The "candidate who must be obeyed" was talking about Palin's family when he said, "Kids are off limits." Jake Tapper of ABC News interviewed then Candidate Obama, and asked, "Governor Palin and her husband issued a statement today saying their 17-year-old daughter Bristol, who is unmarried, is five months pregnant. Do you have any reaction?" OBAMA: "I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off-limits. And people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Governor Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know, my mother had me when she was 18. And, you know, how family deals with issues and -- and, you know, teenaged children, that shouldn't be the topic of -- of our politics." The Palin children have been fodder for comedians since they were brought to the national stage. Incest isn't funny. Ugly kid jokes aren't funny. Many of the things said about public figures are just flat wrong. Being "knocked up" isn't much fun. Racist comments hurt all of us. I exhausted the top 10 list before I ran out of outrageous instances ignored by the Palins. The National Organization for Women named David Letterman to their Hall of Shame. Will Letterman be joining Jay Leno? Conan O'Brien? Craig Ferguson? Seth Myers? Rush Limbaugh? Or John McCain? Of course not! I guess N.O.W. didn't bother checking Sarah Palin's "feminist" credentials. All across America, right wing radio and television talk show hosts feigned outrage in perfect synchronicity. The same people who back up Palin's high drama assertions against Letterman ignored the connections between Bill O'Reilly's irresponsible incitement and the murder of Dr. George Tiller. David Letterman, a late night entertainer, apologized. Fox New's Bill O'Reilly has not. As a parent, I understand being defensive. I just wonder what took so long. Why now?
