What gets to me a lot that many players in the NBA do (especially Lebron) is when they pivot after a jump step. That's clearly a travel!!! you hop, then you step, with both feet. It's the same as a 1, 2 step. You can't stay on the ground and set a pivot foot! I see it a lot in games, especially from Lebron. I get mad everytime i see it cause it isn't called!
When he "catches" the ball after dribbling the second time he has his right foot down and his left foot up. He then puts his left foot down and uses that as his pivot foot. Wouldn't this be allowable? The rules state that if you have both feet down when you catch the ball, and you lift one foot, then the other foot will become the pivot foot. What if one leg is already up when you catch the ball? Is the foot that you have down your pivot foot or can you choose where to put your other foot and use that as your pivot foot?
If you pick up the ball with one foot on the floor, that foot has been established as your pivot foot.
I always thought this was a travel too. When I use to play basketball and someone is on the floor with the ball I remember everyone yelling you cant get up!
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Clearly not a travel and anyone who thinks it is doesn't understand the rules. This thread is just more of the usual LeBron micro-analyzing of perceived faults that aren't there.
Yes LBJ did travel and he is always committing traveling violations that go uncalled. I counted 3 travels in game 1. Its horrible how blind the referee's are...Mark Cuban should compile a video of all of the uncalled traveling violations like he did with the Rockets when Yao Ming was doing the "moving screens"
I think the travel against game 4 chicago was blatant I also thought when he had the ball and stood up from midcourt at the beginning of the game was a travel
I don't know what you guys are seeing. He fakes the shot, then he moves his right foot, then moves his left foot, and then he shoots. That's a travel.
wow, some you guys seem like you are counting steps during his last dribble (when the ball is bouncing). That's not how you do it. You count steps once he gathers the ball (i.e., the moment he touches the ball without dribbling again). His right foot is down prior to gathering the ball. he's allowed two steps after that. And even if the right foot was already the pivot foot, he's allowed a jump stop. And that's what it looks like in regular speed. nitpicking
here is commentary from nba.com on standing up with the ball. When in possession of the ball while on the floor, an offensive player is permitted to stand up, establish a pivot foot and resume play. Here, the offensive player loses the ball and then regains possession after going to the floor. He then regains his feet, establishes his pivot and resumes play. This is a legal play. Since the ball was touched by an opponent creating a loose ball situation, the offensive player may legally dribble after recovering the ball. http://www.nba.com/videorulebook/category.html?cid=108 so lebron did not travel by just standing up. and it doesn't look like he moves either foot while standing up.
LeBron is so good that he should be reffed under a separate set of rules. It should be a travel if LeBron takes any steps after stopping his dribble and he shouldn't be allowed to make contact with anyone else on the floor in any manner. If he does make contact with someone, in any manner, it should be an automatic flagrant 2 on LeBron. That will make it far!
Anybody know the rule on what constitutes "gathering" the ball? Has it always been the case that you could take as many steps as you want while doing this? Again I think it's a problem with all these bizarre exceptions the NBA makes on the perimeter. I can't imagine this would be a no-call if Lebron executed the same footwork from a post-up position. These strange traveling allowances associated with driving jump-stops should be removed from the game. They really make no sense.
I dont think thats right. In the NBA, you have a choice of which foot you make your pivot foot. In college, I think the first foot to make contact to the floor must always be your pivot foot. I could be wrong tho', its been years since I looked at the rules, also I vaguely remember there being addendum to the NBA traveling rules this past year? Personally it didnt look like a travel to me at all, but all of those posts of people saying it was clearly a travel gave me some doubt. I thought maybe they knew something I didnt.
Not a travel. Lebron doesn't gather the ball until he starts to rise for the shot. Before that he is technically still dribbling and then takes a 1-2 step shot. The one on the floor is a little more suspicious. Jason Kidd traveled in all of those 3 pointers, and Chase actually traveled twice, palming the ball after his behind the back shot and taking 2 steps then jump stopping.
Oh, maybe I'm not up to date then. I thought the rules regarding traveling were the same for college and NBA. Oops.
