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Did Kobe Bryant quit on the Lakers?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by TheGreat, Dec 14, 2009.

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Did Kobe quit?

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  1. MONON

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    Am I missing something or did someone just start a thread about a 3 or 4 year old topic. :confused:
     
  2. Icehouse

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    Now that's true.
     
  3. Icehouse

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    Um, I've seen it twice. But you are right, Kobe is better.
     
  4. WinorLoseMate

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    'Did you enjoy this raping?' I can sure tell you did, but this is a rockets board so get out of here. Clutchfans, not Kobe's jockstrap. Bye.
     
  5. Easy

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    He is a self-proclaimed KOF. He already stated more than once that he enjoyed watching Kobe destroy the Rockets.
     
  6. ItsMyFault

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    I enjoy Kobe destroying any team... I mean I'd like the Rockets to win obviously... but if Kobe's putting on a show... I just sit back and enjoy his greatness.
     
  7. goodbug

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    What's quitting on the team? Not giving it all on courts is quitting. Like TMac I can't see fastbreak defense, that's quitting.

    Kobe dropped 45 points on Rocket in season opener after he demanded to be traded. That's not a quitter.
     
  8. v3.0

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    so you lost your contributing member status over the wannabe jordan?

    smooth move bro...
     
  9. ItsMyFault

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    Naw? I've lost it for a week or so for bashing on bigtexxx in a cfb thread... I think it was the Texas A&M game where he kept coming in that stupid thread and trolling... shoulda stayed away but ah well... what can ya do now?
     
  10. goodbug

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    Underdog is officially defined by having no HCA in playoff series. And Kobe won from 01-04 for 4 consecutive years with at least one series being underdog.

    It's so convenient they won and you think they were no underdog. That's bull****. No one ever won as underdog by your definition.

     
  11. v3.0

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    bigtexxx giveth contributing status, and he taketh away also
     
  12. Dave_78

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    Did TheGreat quit on being a decent Clutchfans poster?
     
  13. ItsMyFault

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    Ah, I'd just like to see his ass on the night of January 7th, 2010 when Texas wins... I'd be interested in seeing what he has to say.
     
  14. lmaballa

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    Yea we care...
     
  15. Icehouse

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    Underdog is not defined as not having HCA in the postseason. It's defined as whether you are expected to win or lose. A prime example is the Lakers 2001-2002 season. The only reason LA didn't have HCA against the Kings in that series was because Shaq missed 15 games, and they only finished 3 games behind Sacremento. No one expected Sacremento to beat LA in the playoffs, when they were healthy.

    Here is the official definition since you bring that lame HCA example up every time this topic is discussed.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title&ved=0CAcQkAE

    Now please highlight for us what playoff series the Lakers (with Kobe) won that most expected them to lose. Also highlight a series in where the Lakers (with Kobe) won when they had less talent then the team they beat. I can highlight 3 upsets (03 Spurs, 04 Pistons, 08 Celtics), and Kobe played like utter garbage in two of those series.

    I'm not knocking Kobe for winning with talent because everyone needs it to win. He is arguably the best player in basketball and definately everything T-Mac is not. But there is no need to act like he hasn't done things that he has (like quit), or give him props for things he never did (like win anything as an underdog or whatever you like to call it). If one is throwing him on the undertalented Rockets then it's important to note that those teams didn't have enough supporting talent and that Kobe has never won anything in the postseason on a team that didn't have superior or equal talent. Underdog my ass.
     
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  16. goodbug

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    How about get better educated and check what this business is about.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aUrZ16kqbll4&refer=home

    Home team win 60%+ in regular season, and that number goes beyond 74% in playoff. And I remember this, in game 7, home teams win 90% of the time. All these numbers are statistically significant, way more significant than so called "expectation". And what exactly is expectation? The BSPN experts picks have always been so bad that they'd lose every season as a group betting in vegas.

    Lakers for example, in 03 against defending champion Spurs, with a prime TD, without HCA, and they're no underdog because you expect them to win?



     
  17. sbyang

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    I can't go along with the assertion that all road teams are underdogs. There are too many factors too make such a blanket statement.

    I'll go with the vegas definition for underdogs, if Vegas picks the other team to win the series, then you are a dog. If vegas picks the other team in 4 or 5, then you are a huge dog.


     
  18. Power

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    kobe is a hard worker, i agree.But never quitted?!!...

    maybe this little vid will refresh our memories

    <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/n6AK8Tfh9Mk&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/n6AK8Tfh9Mk&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

    Dikembe was a beast...and still :grin:
     
  19. david_rocket

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    why someone posted a vid of like 3 or 4 years ago?
    we already knew that kobe wanted to be traded before, why mention it now.
     
  20. goodbug

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    If the team lost a key player, that's another story. Like Rox lost YM before clashing Jazz two years ago. But other than that,

    Underdog also has this definition as you can find on dictionary.com

    2. One that is at a disadvantage.

    If HCA has the word advantage in it, and you don't have other significant factor (like injuries) to compensate, it's blind just to say because one team is expected to win. Who expects it? As fans we all expect our team to win no matter what, does that count? How significant is the expectation related to the result, show me some statistically correlation then we can talk. Otherwise it's totally bull****.


     

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