Did Kevin Martin Sabotage Last Night's Game vs Nuggets ?

And Melo doesn't rely on free throws... no.

Martin has 279 attempts, played every game this season.

Melo has 217 attempts, missed 8 games this season. If we add in his average of 8.3 per game, times 8 games, that's 66.

So Melo would normally have 283 attempts.... more than Martin.

Interesting how perception usually doesn't fit reality, does it folks?

 

No, people think you are disrespecting Martin by calling him fairly useless, accusing him of stupid nonsense like throwing a game, stuff like that.

Martin isn't a "superstar", there are only about 3 of those in the NBA today. He should be an all-star, however.

 

Here's a news flash!

Every good scoring guard in the NBA relies on free throws!! Hello??

 

I never called him useless and never accused him of that.


My opinion on Martin is he's a great scorer that you can't build a team around but can be a key piece to a Championship team.

 

The problem with Martin is at the end of games he often looks for the refs to bail him out by trying to flop his way to a foul. He has improved down the stretch of games but earlier this year that was very frustrating to watch.

 

Then why did you lump yourself into the group of people who disrespect him?

 

Uhh maybe because in another thread when we said he wasn't a superstar someone said we didn't appreciate him.

 

Maybe you're over simplifying the conversation.

It appears you are defending those who don't appreciate him.

In that other thread, no one called him a Super Star. They were simply comparing stats and "appreciating" him for his contributions to this team.

 

Nah you just refuse to read I guess.

In fact I defended Martin on the 1st page so yeah wrong.

 

I know, I am officially a Martin hater because I think he is an elite shooter and not a superstar.

 

As other posters have already noted, part of the reason KM has low FG% is because good team usually fouls and sends him to the line, something which isn't reflected in FG%. On the other hand, Melo's FG% is unfairly boosted because he doesn't take as much 3 pointers (because he sucks at it) and majority of his points are scored in the paint area via dunks and layups (similar to how DH ends up with a higher FG% than Durant). When you actually take all those factors into account, KM posts one of the highest TS% in the league at 0.603%, way more than Melo's TS% (which is actually just near the league average). Not only that, the playoff success you're putting on Melo is partly because the Nuggets are one of the better teams in the West, while the Kings have been in rebuilding mode since KM broke out. Just a few days ago Melo missed 15 of his first 18 shots and finished on 6 of 24 shooting, yet his team still smoked Sacramento by double digits. KM has a horrible shooting night against a good team and people here accuse him of deliberately sabotaging his own team (WTF?!?). Melo has an even worse shooting night against a lottery team and the same people see him as someone who is a legitimate superstar.

The fact that Melo's FG% actually rises when he's faced with good teams shows that he is a slacker, he only puts out good effort when the matchup is exciting or its a big game and there are a lot of cameras. Unfortunately he's being paid double KM's salary 100% of the time. If you could decrease his salary whenever he coasts through a game I would have no problem with him, but you can't, and I'd rather get the guy who makes 50% less and goes all out 100% of the time.

I'm not arguing KM is a superstar if you're comparing him to DH, LBJ, Pau Gasol or Kobe. But if you're gonna say that Melo is a superstar and is someone who can carry a team on his back while KM is a choker who always wilts when faced with good teams then you need facts to back up your claims. Right now I don't see it.

 

"Superstar" is a relative term depending on who uses it. If you consider Melo a superstar then you should consider KM one too, since in most cases KM is actually the better scorer, the one thing that give Melo his "superstar cred" (i.e. the common fan regards him as one of the "purest scorers in the league").

If you only use superstars to refer to the very top of NBA foodchain then obviously you won't find any posters here who'll say KM is just as good as LBJ.

 

Tonight (vs. Portland) he showed up in a big way. The centers of this team did not.

In the homestretch, why didn't we try his curl off Scola with Shane assisting? We just let him go iso and he's better moving off the ball