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Did God create the Universe? Hawking says no.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by platy, Sep 2, 2010.

  1. YaosDirtyStache

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    How about we all meet up so we can piss on each others beliefs in person...itll make for a much more heartfelt debate!
     
  2. Ubiquitin

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    God a creation of man to rule man. But it works well enough.
     
  3. jonjon

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    In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth.
     
  4. BEAT LA

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    No, not yet. Maybe some day. I tried praying last night, but I was in my bed.

    No, I don't eat pork.

    Some days, but I want to do it every day. It teaches me patience, empathy, not to stuff myself (slothenly), to cut down on nicotine and maybe quit by the time Ramadan is over.

    I believe God wants me to try to be a better person every day.
     
  5. weslinder

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    Right, but the explanation that Steven Hawking uses in A Brief History of Time requires imaginary time, which he can't explain. So that's no explanation either. Now he may have a new explanation in his new book. I don't keep up with physics news, so I don't know.
     
  6. ClutchCityReturns

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    <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/NfOL_oGgRVk?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/NfOL_oGgRVk?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

    ...and the long version (well worth the watch)

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  7. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Unless they want to use us for slave labor or some other purpose of theirs.
     
  8. Surfguy

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    Denzell Washington in "The Book of Eli"

    ;)
     
  9. nickb492

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    How bout this. Look at the number 8.....ok you with me? Now turn that sum bi*** sideways.....

    Boom b****es, Infinity.
    Am I blowing your mind? If I am it's ok, Chris Angel shat himself when I revealed this to him.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    I would like to read Hawking's book to get more context for his statement but as I've said before, the existence of God(s) isn't a scientific question.
     
  11. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    looks like God got the last laugh didn't he...
     
  12. Dave_78

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    It is when so many people's answer to scientific questions is "God did it."
     
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  13. ChumpCity

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    Not that there is anything wrong with believing in a higher power, but it bothers me when you ask how do they know this......and their response is "faith."

    "Faith" is not concrete......on the other hand, science is, as it is backed by evidence and research.
     
  14. Eps

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    shoulda put haters gon hate inside the pic???
    can any one do that??? it's surely to replace the eagle walking on water.
     
  15. Shroopy2

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    You start the universe all over again, and there's a semblance of a similar Earth or Earth-like planet with evolved intelligent life, how can there NOT have been formed a belief in a form of a higher power like God? Primitive brains no smarter than dogs' aren't exactly conceptualizing things like gravity and photosynthesis and such. In a crude harsh unforgiving world, their senses and consciousnesses becoming more aware, what are they going to turn to for hope and survival?

    Its putting God and religion into literature, into "unquestioned" books of God's will with no room for deviation from even THINKING against it (cuz...God can read your thoughts, yeah), thats whats bad. The Adam and Eve thing has caused as much suffering as anything.
     
  16. Eps

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    just saw it. awesome. made me want to read again. buuuuuuuuuut, i didn't.
     
  17. solid

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    DNA alone screams intelligent design; it is beyond statistically improbable that such complexity was spontaneously and randomly generated. It doesn't add up and you don't have to be religious to come to that conclusion.
     
  18. Dr of Dunk

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    I know what you're trying to say, but the way you said it is a terrible way to defend it. The world once believed the planet was flat. Why? Because "science" of the day thought so and they had proof, of course. Science is only factual until proven wrong - at that point, what was originally believed can be laughable. Flat earth, ether, universe revoling around the earth, etc., are examples.

    I've always believed science is nothing more than "faith" that is willing to be proven wrong whereas religion is faith not so willing to be proven wrong, and is thought of as being infallible.
     
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  19. durvasa

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    That complexity wasn't spontaneously and randomly generated. It would have been generated over a period on the order of a billion years. From our vantage point, that's basically an eternity. And something occurring through the process of natural selection is not random.
     
  20. Dave_78

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    The vast majority of the world's foremost experts on the subject who also happen to be some of the planet's brightest minds disagree with you.
     

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