What's REALLY REALLY wild is that you interpret the writing of "95%" of the posters in the D&D to be roughly equivalent to "F*****g Jews. The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." I think that says a lot more about you than them.
How can it be ant-Semitic if it speaks the truth about the Jewish mob? Last time I read, it was the Jews who were responsible for Jesus death. The Jews of today should apologize for their wrong doings.
W-wow... really? So should I apologize that some where along the way someone I'm related to MIGHT have owned slaves just cause I'm white? What if I also have some slave heritage somewhere along the way? Does that mean I should apologize AND get reparations? Just because a mob of Jews killed Jesus, doesn't mean every Jew thought Jesus deserved to die... Maybe I'm in over my head here ( or missed some sarcasm or something)... I don't normally tread into the D&D...
I've never heard Mel Gibson utter the words you posted, but then I've never seen him intoxicated. When he is sober, he seems much more sympathetic towards Jews than many of the posters here. If the reports are true though, his true feelings seem to come out when he's been drinking. My assumption is that the 95% in question usually post here when they are sober, so I wouldn't expect any of you to utter (or type) those words either. If you've all been posting drunk, then I apologize. Profusely.
I haven't seen anyone here EVER post anything anti-Semitic and I believe that if they did they would be banned. There have been anti-Israel posts, but it's BS to equate those to anti-Semitism. Nobody has done what you've suggested, sober or drunk, and to suggest so is slander. Apologize profusely for that.
The only one of those I see in the posted article is his attempt to run away. I will admit I have not gone the extra mile and read everything I could find on the subject. I would disagree that making dumb anti-Semitic remarks necessarily makes one an anti-Semite. It might betray anti-Semitism in some, but I wouldn't take it as a barometer of a man all by itself. I don't know enough about Gibson to tell about him, not that he matters all that much.
Nor did I claim that anyone here HAD said anything anti-Semitic........much less suggest it. About the most that could be inferred from what I said is that while sober, Mel Gibson comes across as more sympathetic towards Jews than 95% of the people who care to post in D&D. There have been claims that he is against Jews, but I haven't personally seen it. Alcohol appears to bring it out. I can only imagine what alcohol would do to most you guys--given the proclivity of support towards Hezbollah (or at the least, an apologist stance towareds them), an organization that has claimed: "It is an open war until the elimination of Israel and until the death of the last Jew on earth." I didn't claim anyone here is anti-Semitic............though it is possible that I think that a Hezbollah apologist is that way. I still didn't say it. Perhaps you should apologize to me for making such an outlandish claim.
What's your basis for this 95% claim, I believe that's what other posts were trying to get at. As far as Melly mel, he's a jew-baiter extraordinaire and has frequently seethed in the past about secular Jewish conspiracies out to discredit him and the catholic church as well as his holocaust-denier father. So if you're telling me that 95% of the D&D does that - you're not informed about either the D&D or Mel Gibson himself.
Actually, I can't say that I'm all that informed about Mel Gibson. I just know....as I said.....that I've heard people call him Anti-Semitic, but I've never heard him personally espouse those thoughts. As for the 95% comment.......gosh, you people sure have an affinity for diverting attention away from the crux of the conversation. Would you prefer if I changed 95% to "most." Mel Gibson is way out in right field, and as such, I don't have much use for him. Same things goes for 95...err....most of the people who care to post here--except you guys are way out in left field. As for the crux of the conversation (or at least my part of it), I think anyone who is even remotely sympathetic towards Hezbollah must be Anti-Semitic (there, I said it) and.......most......of the people who care to post in D&D certainly seem to argue in that direction. Mel Gibson, if recent reports are true, just exposed himself to be supremely Anti-Semitic. I just think it is incredible ironic that you guys found something that......at least it appears that way (again--given the sympathy towards Hezbollah).....you can all agree on.
Personally neither have I since I've never met him. Is that your hook here? Impressive. But you know what? yeah I don't think "most" works either, since I have not seen "most" people in D&D talk about secular jewish conspiracies out to destroy them or get involved in holocaust-related stuff. LOL, well if that is the classification than it stands to reason (your reason, at least) that anybody even remotely sympathetic to Israel is a shi-ite muslim hater! I just think it's incredibly ironic that you and the radical sunni muslim militias in Iraq who slaughter shi'ites can agree on this, LOL. YOu and the radical wahabbists like Bin Laden and Zawahiri all should have a party on Muhammed Zarqawi's birthday!
So I interpreted your post correctly. Based on the writing in here you consider "most" D&D posters anti-semitic and in agreement with Gibson's attitude towards Jews. Again, this, and your original disingenous denial that you were calling anyone anti-semitic, (I mean come on, dude. You just admitted in your last post that you really feel this way) says a lot more about you than the posters critical of Israel. Please post some examples of what you would consider anti-semitic statements in the D&D. Maybe I've just been missing them. They should be easy to come up with if most of us are anti-semites.
I may just have to chalk this one up to being drunk on hard liquor. I was drunk on hard liquor once and literally destroyed everything I touched in the friend's house I was drinking in smashing holes in walls and windows just trying to get out of the house. I don't remember what I said. Then, someone thought it would be wise to put me in the back of a Pinto while they drove around the neighborhood. Suffice to say it didn't end well. I don't believe that whatever someone says when their drunk on hard liquor is what they really always believed and always wanted to say. Drunk people have no logic. That is why they go to jail if their out and about. Edit: BREAKING NEWS AT CNN...Mel enters re-hab
Mel Gibson ... drunk ... drunker wnes ... anti-semite? Well, first of all, I am not a Jesus freak. Mel Gibson is not a friend of mine. I've never watched Passion of Christ, and I don't plan to watch it any time soon. I don't care Jews sold/killed Jesus or otherwise. I consider that's none of my friggin' business. But my post record will show I enthusiastically endorsed Jewish American political candidates such as Russ Feingold, and I mourned the tragic death of Paul Wellstone, who was also a Jewish descent. My favorite car AM radio dial is set to Air America Radio, whose main programs are hosted by, guess what, 3 Jewish Americans -- Jerry Springer, Al Franken, and Randi Rhodes. I take pride in China's rich history in which Jews and Muslims, among all other ethnicities, lived in peace and harmony for nearly a millenmium. I am particularly fond of the fact that during the first half of last century, Chinese people, despite their own extreme hardship under the colonial rules and civil wars, welcomed and hosted the massive Jewish refugees, rich and poor, that had escaped from Russia and many other European countries, providing them with a virtual safe heaven to escape the ruthless persecution that was rampant in their homeland. I support PRC government establishing normal diplomatic relation with Israel. I even had high hope for the newly elected Israeli PM Ehud Olmert, wishing he would push forward needed progress in the Middle East peace process that was set back in the Sharon era. Boy was I wrong. My sympathy with the plight of Palestinians, who were driven out of their homeland and had to live under brutal and racist occupation of Israel for decades, and my outrage at the disproportional, criminal actions undertaken by the Israelis against the innocent civilians of Lebanon have zilch to do with anti-semitism. There are clear objectives for my posts of late: to counter the much pro-Israel bias in U.S. mainstream media coverage of the conflict, to dispel the myths and lies, and to protest the refusal of U.S. government to broker peace and the deliberate attempt to prolong the bloodshed. Pole, I'll be the bigger man and I'll ignore your slander.
Sorry, bud. I didn't make an outlandish claim; you did. Apparently you're trying to back away from it by suggesting that anti-Jew doesn't equal anti-Semitic. I'll let that kind of silliness speak for itself. Nobody (let alone 95% or a majority) here has ever said anything approaching the anti-Semitic/anti-Jew (redundant, but whatever) stuff Gibson did. And it's crappy to suggest otherwise. p.s. I'm a Jew, by the way. And I'm almost as offended by your stupid accusation as by Gibson's hate speech.
Edit: BREAKING NEWS AT CNN...Mel enters re-hab Jesus faints. Buddha chuckles. Mohammed scratching his beard ponders.
Sad. Alcohol is the root of a lot of evil, I don't understand why a self-professed 'religious freak' would drug himself up like that, nothing good could ever come out of it (this is a good example of that). If he did indeed make anti-Semitic remarks, then it only confirms what I already suspected about him. He needs to not only seek help with his drinking problem (assuming he has one), but he needs some spiritual help as well; he needs to explore the source of this 'hate' he has and expunge it from his soul.
