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Did Adelman change the offense?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BucMan55, Jan 11, 2008.

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Did Adelman change the offense??

  1. Adelman changed the offense

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  2. T-Mac is just being a ball hog

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  1. BrooksBall

    BrooksBall Member

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    Great post. A worthy topic.

    I definitely think T-Mac is a willing passer and team player that wants to win games more than putting up big numbers. I think Adelman was the one calling JVG-type plays because the team wasn't ready to run his offense. In fact, Adelman explicitly said that he was doing that for the reasons similar to the ones you stated above.

    The recent success is a combination of Adelman's style of play starting to work and the easy schedule. He had to change things up with T-Mac out of the lineup. He couldn't revert to JVG-type plays for our guards because none of them can execute ISO plays like McGrady. I don't think Adelman expected the team to play this well during this stretch. He will continue to push the team to play this way when T-Mac returns.
     
  2. BrooksBall

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    When McGrady passes the ball, the shooter is often wide open. McGrady then heads back on defense. Years under JVG will make that second nature to a player.
     
  3. kokopuffs

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    Tmac at 0:30 and 4:32...sometimes he runs back on defense, other times he just kind of stands around and watches.

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    Tmac at 0:37...passes out from under the basket, but afterwards stands around and watches instead of boxing out his man.

    I know you can't be active 100% of the time, but sometimes Tmac does this and it irks me a little. Don't get me wrong, I like Tmac alot.
     
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  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    So I looked at these and you're complaining on two of the pass off's when he is on the parameter he doesn't do anything but stand around, like the other players.

    Do you understand that there's actually a reason for this? That you don't just run around like a chicken with your head cut off?

    And on offense, you don't box a guy out after you pass the ball away - that's a sure fire way to get called for 3 secs

    The defense boxs out.

    I think you may be trying to read something that isn't there. I've never heard of anyone saying t-mac is lazy on offense and just stands around. You don't just run around once you pass the ball off - run to where? not only is it a waste of energy, you end up causing problems because you mess up the spacing and then if someone like yao has the ball inside he isn't sure where the guys are because instead of being in their spots they are just running around without the ball.

    there are certain cuts and patterns that exist in an offense. it's not just run around without the ball. that's not how basketball works on an organized level. there's certain spots you have to either stay or move to. it's like an dance except that it's only loosely choreographed.

    you can't have good ball movement if you have to first look around and search where your team mates are - you have to know where they are before you even think about passing or moving.
     
  6. BucMan55

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    After the drive n dish, there wasnt anyone for T-Mac to box out since his man was now between him and the basket. In fact, T-Mac was in good position if Battier comes up short and it goes right back towards that corner.


    Not saying what the video poster is saying does not exist, just this example is a bit of a reach. Also, its true that you cant just run around like a chicken with your head cut off. I think in the situation T-Mac was in having just passed it off, the best play is to either hang in that spot for a rebound, or cut to the FT line area....He certainly doesnt want to keep running towards Shane.
     
  7. BucMan55

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    Hmm, this couldnt be one of the reasons for "better ball movement over the last 10 games or so could it??
     

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