1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Deshaun Watson tears ACL

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Nov 2, 2017.

  1. Roc Paint

    Roc Paint Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2001
    Messages:
    22,329
    Likes Received:
    12,444
    NOT TODAY!
     
    Bobbythegreat likes this.
  2. smitheygerard

    smitheygerard Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2017
    Messages:
    1,019
    Likes Received:
    640
    No I do understand, and obviously we disagree. I think you're being an ******* for no reason, and you think you've never been in the wrong once in your entire life and that you have a 50 foot dick that spews gold out of its tip.

    All bow to bobby the great.
     
    edwardc likes this.
  3. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,605
    Likes Received:
    32,168
    I'm okay with the types of people who would get upset over a joke like that being upset. Those aren't the kinds of people that matter to me at all. It's good that we all get to know that fact and accept it now so that in future situations you can save your breath.
     
  4. smitheygerard

    smitheygerard Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2017
    Messages:
    1,019
    Likes Received:
    640
    Oddly enough I don't need to waste breath to type words on a screen, but I'm sure your Australopithecus brain can figure that out.
     
    el gnomo likes this.
  5. Roc Paint

    Roc Paint Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2001
    Messages:
    22,329
    Likes Received:
    12,444
    Speaking of dick tips. Have you seen your head lately?
     
  6. smitheygerard

    smitheygerard Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2017
    Messages:
    1,019
    Likes Received:
    640
    You should see my dick.
     
    whozee likes this.
  7. SC1211

    SC1211 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    3,128
    Likes Received:
    1,138
    Garbage post from a garbage poster
     
  8. DatRocketFan

    DatRocketFan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,680
    Likes Received:
    17,797
    U probably jumping with fking glee, that your favorite qb savage is now starting. Once a savage dick rider always a savage dick rider. Poor our savior Watson.
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,132
    He also loves mallet and Osweiler.

    Should be banned
     
  10. DatRocketFan

    DatRocketFan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,680
    Likes Received:
    17,797
    While a poster calling jj watt, jj fat gets ban. This fker is still here outright celebrating/joking about the injury that took out the best qb that Texans ever had. Honestly boobythegreat might as well Change your username to the savage dick rider.
     
  11. theimpossibles1

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2007
    Messages:
    4,265
    Likes Received:
    5,103
    I wish I could send a message to Deshaun Watson. I'm not a religious guy per se, but I am praying for Watson. Never has a guy come onto a Houston team and completely changed the outlook of the entire franchise like Deshaun has.

    The competitor he is, I know this must be very challenging. I just hope he knows he should feel no guilt and that all of Houston loves him and believes he will come back better than ever. 10 months to get more knowledge of the schemes. 10 months to reflect on and learn from the few bad decisions he made.

    We are so lucky to finally have our franchise QB. I can't wait for next season. Having the Rockets and Astros to cheer for will help with the wait.

    Do whatever it takes to get back to 100% Deshaun. We have waited 15 years, we can wait one more.
     
    #311 theimpossibles1, Nov 2, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2017
    stevel, Roc Paint and conquistador#11 like this.
  12. magman

    magman Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2007
    Messages:
    811
    Likes Received:
    442
    This sucks, life's not fair. Watson changed the look of the offense, and they were scoring 30+ a game. Kiss that goodbye.

    Seriously, they've lost Watt, Mercilus, and Watson all in one season.

    Watching this team with their defense and Savage under center is going to be tough.
     
    Roc Paint, J.R. and conquistador#11 like this.
  13. J Sizzle

    J Sizzle Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2012
    Messages:
    43,847
    Likes Received:
    30,172
    I'm heartbroken man. Really am.
     
    stevel, Roc Paint, J.R. and 3 others like this.
  14. thedude077

    thedude077 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2012
    Messages:
    3,674
    Likes Received:
    1,348
    I'm so depressed.....
     
    J.R. likes this.
  15. thejav

    thejav Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2010
    Messages:
    3,169
    Likes Received:
    488
    We are going to get raped in every matchup going forward. At least we can look forward to a high 1st round draft pick. Right.....
     
  16. TheRealist137

    TheRealist137 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Messages:
    35,428
    Likes Received:
    22,566
    Bobby has always hated Watson and finally tonight he gets to celebrate and see his boy Savage play QB.
     
  17. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    21,390
    Likes Received:
    34,513
    This team wasn't going anywhere with this secondary,

    Just get better.
     
  18. DatRocketFan

    DatRocketFan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,680
    Likes Received:
    17,797
    No sht our team wasn't the best, but the injury to our savior Watson just ensure our team just got shttier. The best thing that has happen to Texans in a while and now on here the fking the savage dick rider is outright celebrating that Watson got injured pissed me off.
     
    smitheygerard likes this.
  19. Mr.Scarface

    Mr.Scarface Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2003
    Messages:
    13,052
    Likes Received:
    8,356
    The Sports Gods have re-doubled their focus on the Houston football curse. To lose Watt, Mercilus, and Watson all in the same season? The odds........
     
  20. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    114,090
    Likes Received:
    176,381
    This ****ing sucks...
    ________________________________________

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...atson-houston-texans-torn-acl-injury-2017-nfl

    Was Watson off to the best start of any rookie in recent memory?

    After coming in off the bench against the Jaguars in Week 1 and struggling through a dreadful Thursday night game -- admittedly one he won for the Texans with an excellent individual effort on a 49-yard TD scramble -- against the Bengals in his first NFL start, Watson was as good as any quarterback in football. After eight weeks, Watson led the league in Total QBR, which includes his exploits as a runner. His 81.9 mark was 7.9 points better than that of Dak Prescott.

    Strictly as a passer, Watson was fifth in passer rating and seventh in the league in ANY/A, but even that sells him short. He had drawn eight pass interference calls for a league-leading 173 yards of hidden offense. Watson had thrown eight interceptions, but most of them had come in irrelevant or hopeless situations, as five of them changed Houston's win expectancy by 2.4 percent or less.

    Watson threw 204 passes before suffering his knee injury in practice on Thursday. We have to adjust quarterback stats for the era in which they came, which Pro Football Reference does with its index statistics, as 100 represents era-adjusted league-average.

    Ninety-eight quarterbacks have thrown 200 passes or more during their debut campaigns since the merger. Of those 98 passers, Watson posted the best touchdown percentage index (152), the fourth-best yards per attempt index (124), and the ninth-best adjusted yards per attempt index (113). The closest rookie quarterback Watson resembles is Mark Rypien, who was actually making his debut in 1988 after two seasons on injured reserve. Rypien started six games during his rookie campaign, and their era-adjusted stats are remarkably similar:

    PASSER CMP%+ Y/ATT+ TD%+ INT%+ PASSRT+ ANY/A+
    Deshaun Watson 95 124 152 76 118 113
    Mark Rypien 99 128 149 68 113 116

    Rypien was already 27 by the time he took over as a full-time starter and really spent only five years as a full-time No. 1 quarterback, but he made it to two Pro Bowls and won Super Bowl MVP for his exploits in leading Washington to the Super Bowl in 1991 during those five years in D.C. Watson has shown similar ability in terms of creating big plays downfield, although he's far more effective as a runner.

    Watson's touchdown percentage would have regressed to the mean over a larger sample, but given how both he and the Texans' offense were improving week after week, it seems likely the rest of his game would have kept up. It's impossible to make a perfect comparison because of the smaller sample, but Watson's campaign is certainly in line with that of great recent rookies like Prescott, Matt Ryan, and Russell Wilson as among the best in football.

    Does this impact his long-term future?

    It's too early to say, but quarterbacks have been able to return from ACL tears without any notable drop off in performance. This is the second time Watson has torn an ACL after doing so in college, but that was an injury to his left knee, while this injury is to his right knee. The promising news is that we haven't heard anything about damage beyond the ACL, which should decrease the complexity of Watson's rehab.

    Barring further news on the injury, it seems likely Watson will be ready to return in time for Week 1 next season. While fans might think about Robert Griffin as a worrisome comp for Watson, given that Griffin looked brilliant as a rookie before going down with a knee injury and failing to live up to his previous heights, there are more positive comparables for mobile quarterbacks of the past, too. Randall Cunningham tore his ACL in 1991 and remained effective as both a passer and runner upon returning. Rich Gannon required an ACL repair after going down with a knee injury as a backup in 1988, and the future Raiders standout remained an effective scrambler, though he didn't see serious game time until 1990.

    Should the Texans keep Watson from running as frequently when he returns?

    I think Watson would be able to succeed without the threat of the read-option by virtue of his ability as a pure passer, but I also don't see any reason to dramatically change the offense in an attempt to keep Watson healthy. Watson's ACL tears have both come in practice; this most recent injury saw him go down without being touched. If he was getting injured as a scrambler in games, it might be a different story, but the Texans shouldn't need to put any restraints on Watson when he returns.

    (...continued..)
     
    #320 J.R., Nov 2, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2017
    stevel likes this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now