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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Colt45, Sep 10, 2017.

  1. TEXNIFICENT

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    Ok cool, but what are the expectations for:

    A $33 million Center who can’t snap the ball?
    Or the washed up $10 million RB with no burst? Or his $5 million backup who doesn’t scare anyone?
    How about the 3 pedestrian WRs -each making $8 -$10mil per to be average ( Cooks), hurt ( Cobb) , suspended ( Fuller - popped for PEDs) or released ( Stills) ?
    What about your $17 million kicker? Is he worth it?
    You have a $20 million safety who’s NOT the best at his position on the THIS team!
    You have a $54 million edge rusher who has a cool name (MERCILUS) but NEVER takes over a game.
    Mckinney is a decent player but do you need him making $50 million when you have Cunningham on a $58 million deal for a below average defense?
    Tunsil is a good player but is he $4 million a year better than any LT in the history of the sport?

    DW4 is the only reason to even tune in and probably should be shutdown to prevent a serious injury and to improve draft position. Oh damn I forgot! The Texans traded away their draft capital for us to watch this mess. Never mind!
     
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  2. cmoak1982

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    Yeah, no where did I say anything about those others.
    Most of this team is trash.
    Tunsil is overpaid, so is Watson.
    Martin, Johnson, Johnson, Murray are all massively overpaid but their annual salaries are pennies compared to Watson and Tunsil.
     
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    And Fuller, Cooks and Stills are not pedestrian. I know it’s popular here to knock players to prop up Watson but that’s just not true.
    When healthy, they are above average to good. In Fullers case, when healthy he is a viable number 1 option. Wouldn’t want to pay him that because of his injuries.

    edit* Cobb is a massive overpay, along with Martin, Johnson, Johnson and Murray.
    O’Brien sucks
     
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    What was untrue about my post?
     
  5. TEXNIFICENT

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    Part of ability is availability and Fuller is NEVER available for an entire season. IN WHAT UNIVERSE is he a number 1? Stills couldn’t even get on the field this year. Cooks has been dealt over and over and isn’t an elite WR. Elite WR aren’t traded multiple times in their 20s
     
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    Maybe we have a different definition of the word elite. An elite QB doesn't make the kinds of mistakes in big moments that Watson did yesterday. The Safety you gotta get rid of the ball. The fumble, it was a bad snap but in that situation you gotta catch that snap. He got both hands on the ball.
     
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    First, Fuller per game numbers are as good as any receiver in the league.
    Second I didn’t say elite, I said a over average to good. Fuller being a viable first option when healthy (lower end of the true number 1s)
    You called them pedestrian, I said they were above average to good. Now your bar is elite.
    If Watson needs elite talent to win then he isn’t elite himself.

    Forum still has too many logical inconsistencies.
    Watson doesn’t have talent
    But also
    Watson makes scrubs look elite.

    Which is it?
     
  8. TEXNIFICENT

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    Who on the Texans offense scares anyone? Who does the opposition prepare for?
     
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    Watson has the second highest EPA in the league with the worst interior offensive line in the league throwing to KeKe Coutee and Chad Hansen while
    Handing off to an over the hill RB who couldn’t out run Andy Reid.

    Anyone hating on Watson here either has an agenda or is a racist. Period.
     
  10. TEXNIFICENT

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    Really. You just said most of the roster is trash but you want Watson to drag their sorry asses to the Super Bowl. Which is it? Is the roster trash or not?
     
  11. cmoak1982

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    Yeah y’all can stop with that racist ****.
    Half of you dudes would be hatin like crazy if Watson was white.

    Watson is a baller (has to grow more but is already paid like he’s there) but he is overpaid and not quite as good as what some of you think.
     
  12. cmoak1982

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    Apparently you are too emotionally invested to have a real conversation.
    You’re jumping all over the place.
     
  13. TEXNIFICENT

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    Is the roster trash or not? Those were your words my friend,
     
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    I know what my words were. Where did I say anything different?
     
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    Ok,

    maybe just stupid.
     
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    Learn to read your own comment. that's all bro. Doesn't have talent and making scrubs look elite is the same sht.

    Plus Watson is not overpaid. Man is the only reason y we are competitive in most games.
     
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  17. cmoak1982

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    Yeah a lot of people on here are stupid.
     
  18. cmoak1982

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    Not the same at all.
    Doesn’t have talent is an excuse for the losing and why he makes mistakes. Plus he has/had receiving talent.
    Making scrubs look better is a compliment to him.
    Not the same logic.

    And he is absolutely overpaid, he’s not in the top tier of QBs and is paid like the 2nd best in the league.
    But the market is what it is.
     
  19. cmoak1982

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    Being 5 mil more than Wilson and 6-7 mil more than Rodgers is being overpaid imo.

    Still would rather overpay Watson than pay Goff, Cousins and Wentz-they are massively overpaid.
     
  20. DatRocketFan

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    u are using it in a different way, but it's basically the same sht. no talent = scurbs.

    And he's paid 2nd best cause who the fk r u going to use it on this talent depleted team?
     

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