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[Deseret News] Utah Jazz in a jam when it comes to drafting Jimmer Fredette

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  1. jsmee2000

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    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700145657/Utah-Jazz-in-a-jam-when-it-comes-to-drafting-Jimmer-Fredette.html

    Utah Jazz in a jam when it comes to drafting Jimmer Fredette
    By Lynn Debruin, Associated Press

    So much hype....
     
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    He'll have one of the ten best careers of all the players in this draft. 7-10 is appropriate draft range for Jimmer.
     
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    Just a more athletic J.J. Redick .
     
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    JJ Reddick is taller and more athletic than Jimmer, IIRC
     
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    If this was a black guy from BYU, is there any doubt that Utah would be passing on the opportunity to draft him?
     
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    Jimmer is going to have a really tough time in this league as a 6-2 SG. He's got a nicer game....but this is probably going to follow the Adam Morrison route.

    Reddick was already established as a specialist shooter that needed to come off screens or spot up.

    Like JJ, there's no way in the world you would have Fredette running the offense....which immediately limits him to an Eddie House type guy off the bench.

    At 6-2 and meh athleticism, he's going to have a terrible time getting off his shot. He won't be able to get around PGs and he won't be able to shoot over SGs.

    I think he goes down as one of many fantastic college guys that just isn't right for the NBA.
     
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    He is the white Eddie House. A chucker who can provide a spark off the bench when he heats up.
     
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    Why is Fredette talked about so much?

    I don't follow college basketball at all. Every year, I can maybe name the top 2-3 draft prospects. I keep hearing about Fredette so I wiki'd him a while ago and found out he's expected to go between 12-15 in the draft. Why is a guy that's not really a top prospect so famous?
     
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    Maybe because every team wants the token white guy that can play. Believe it or not from a marketing stand point it brings in money.
     
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    On a radio interview with Dan Patrick, Jimmer stated that EVERY team he has worked out for has said to him personally they wanted him to play PG.

    The thing that puts him above Redick was that in college, in his first 2 years, he was actually a playmaker. So I'm sure he has "some" playmaking skills; the problem is whether he's good enough to do that at the NBA level, and do it consistently.

    I think he can be a decent NBA player; he'll be better than Redick that's for sure. With the right situation and coaching, he'll be a nice player off the bench or even start.

    Look, if Derek Fisher can start for years in the NBA, a guy like Jimmer can do well in the NBA. But like I said, it depends on where he ends up, and his motivations.

    But he will not be a star or something of that nature, so the Jazz won't have to worry about that if they end up passing on him.
     
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    [CBS] D bad news on Jimmer: BYU star a bad fit for NBA

    D bad news on Jimmer: BYU star a bad fit for NBA
    By Jeff Goodman
    CBSSports.com Senior Writer
    June 20, 2011
     
  12. what

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    The better question:

    Why does every white guy with an outstanding shooting form get compared to JJ Reddick, but every black athletic guy isn't the next Kwame Brown.

    The biggest myth in basketball is that athletic ability don't mean squat, but every year this is what's said.

    Oh and by the way, why he is famous is because he was the top scorer in college basketball this year.

    The other thing is that Jimmer is a Seven Day Adventist, and he played for BYU and so he has a big following in Utah and that's why Utah has pressure to pick him. The problem is that he'll be gone by the 12th pick, so the pressure is to pick him 3rd overall.
     
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    lol jimmer is NOT a 7th day adventist - he is a mormon.

    but i do agree with you on the athletic comments... being athletic only gets you so far... this game is much more than that.

    dirk just won a championship and will never get mistaken for having amazing athleticism. anyone remember stromile swift?
     
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    If his Defense is adequate. . . he will find a way in the league

    Rocket River
     
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    He's famous because he was the best scorer in college basketball. But his game isn't expected to translate easily to the NBA game where defenders are bigger and teams have more pure scoring options than what BYU had... which is why he likely won't be a top 10 pick.
     
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    Athleticism can be defined as, "the ability to use a variety of motor abilities (strength, power, speed, agility, coordination, stability, balance, etc.) to effectively and efficiently perform a wide variety of sporting actions."

    Athleticism isn't ALL about jumping ability. I would argue Dirk is one of the premiere athletes in the NBA. 7 footers don't move or handle the ball like that.
     
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    Of course they do. They told Eddie House the same thing. No one wants to try and play a 6-2 SG.

    If Fredette can handle the point, he has a chance to start. You don't draft a guy in the lottery with the expectation that he's limited to being a situational reserve.

    Like the above article pointed out though - Fredette is going to be toast any time he tries to line up in front of Rose, Paul, Williams, Nash, Barea, etc. He doesn't have Fisher's savvy* to survive.

    For him to make it as a starter, he's going to have to be so good on offense that the team can't bear to leave him on the bench. He can shoot, but I don't see him creating space for his shot at this level. Maybe I'm wrong and he does get away with a Mark Price impression. But personally, I still see him struggling the same way and for the same reasons Sarunas Jasikevicius did.


    *yet...and it took Fisher 7 years to become a full-time starter and has only been one in 6 of his 15 years. And it's highly doubtful he'd be a full time starter almost anywhere else - Jackson's scheme highly de-emphasis traditional PG play.
     
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    Oh I confused the LDS with SDA. Thanks for the help.
     
  19. Jontro

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    Man I still remember hoping we'd land JJ Redick years ago. Looking back, glad that never came close to happening. I don't follow college ball, but this Jimmer guy seems like a notch below JJ.
     
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    Don't forget the luxury of playing next to Kobe your entire career.

    I like Fredette and want to see him do well but he TOTALLY remind me of Shawn Respert from back in the day. Undersized SG. Great college game. Excellent shooter. Glorious college careers. Lottery Pick. High hopes. Ultimately a bust.

    However, he also does have shades of Stephen Curry as well. Undersized SG. Not a traditional PG. Great college game. Excellent shooter. Glorious college career, lottery pick. High hopes. Ulimately a cornserstone franchise player.

    It seems like a long time ago but Curry, before entering the draft had a lot of doubters as well. I don't think anybody could've predicted Resperts' career to turn out as badly as it did and I don't think anybody knew Curry would be this good this early.

    Nobody really knows. There's no such thing as a sure thing in a Draft.
     

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