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Derrick Rose is the MVP

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Cohete Rojo, Apr 22, 2011.

  1. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Contributing Member

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    He's the MVP if you count the playoffs (which you shouldn't), but it's D-Howard for the regular season. Rose had way more to work with than Howard did.
     
  2. Glenyo

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    rose is the best point guard now.
     
  3. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Member

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    Derrick Rose did score more points but when did that become the end all be all in determining the MVP or the best point guard? Rose takes over 20 shots per game.:eek: Chris Paul has higher assists, lower turnovers, higher steals and a higher shooting percentage from the field, 3PT and FT. And for you advance stat/metric gurus, Chris Paul did have a slightly higher PER. Paul just had a triple double to take down the 2 time defending champion.:)
     
  4. apollo33

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    First of all, his team barely made playoffs, automatic elimination from the race.

    Second of all, triple double in the playoffs does not count for anything in the race.

    Plus all his numbers were huge drop offs from previous years, I mean David West outscored him on his team. Was pretty inconsistent with his offense.
     
  5. Pieman2005

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    Chris Paul is a better point guard but Drose is a better player.
     
  6. noize

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    Paul is the better playoff pointguard while Rose is the better regular season pointguard even though he did won the 3 game for chicago.

    Also does anyone know when the league will anounce the mvp? Wasn't during the 2nd round of the playoff?
     
  7. t_mac1

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    paul is finally healthy again (i think he "coasted" a little bit during the reg season as evident by his the coach limiting his minutes). when healthy, paul is simply the better player.

    derrick rose is definitely the more explosive scorer.
     
  8. Cohete Rojo

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    Nice contradiction. So if he makes the playoffs he can't be MVP, but we can't regard his playoff performance.:confused: This is like saying Kevin Garnett was a terrible player his last 3 seasons in Minnesota.:confused:
     
  9. apollo33

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    No you are the one that is confused, A triple double in a first round playoff game has nothing, absolutely nothing to the with the MVP award process. I feel dumb I have to explain this to you.

    Plus Chris Paul wasn't even the best point guard in the league during the regular season, he was inconsistent and all of his stats and efficiency were huge drop offs from the previous years. That plus the fact his team barely made the playoffs.

    Your only argument is "Chris Paul dropped a triple double in the playoffs, therefore he is the best pg in the league, therefore he should win an award based SOLELY on regular season performance."
     
  10. Steve_Francis_rules

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    KG wasn't a terrible player his last three seasons in Minnesota, but he certainly didn't deserve to be in the MVP discussion, either.

    Think of it this way, if his team missed the playoffs with him, they couldn't have been that much worse without him. So he couldn't really have been that valuable.
     
  11. Shaud

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    The MVP race has absolutely nothing to do with what has happened in the playoffs.

    I think the voting is done before the playoffs start anyway.
     
  12. francis 4 prez

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    so you're saying instead of looking at how good a player is, we should look at how good his teammates are to determine his value?
     
  13. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Not to determine his value, but to determine whether or not he is an MVP candidate.

    Unfortunately, no matter how great a player may be, he is not that valuable to his team if they still lose all the time even with him on the floor.
     
  14. vlaurelio

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    MVP = the clearest best player from a top team
     

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