You think Dampier will get a starting salary over $9.4m? The teams with caproom are more or less gone- imo, Dampier has less room to force a S/T for big salary like that. I will say, with a logjam at point, the Warriors may be interested in ridding a long term contract (Eschmeyer, 3 years) with a guy like Speedy. I'm just not convinced Speedy is the guy (outside shot?) or that we want 3 years of Evan Eschmeyer. f4p- The 4.7m GATER refers to is based on the assumption he signs for 9.4m, and is therefore BYC. 50% of 9.4m=4.7m. I'm sensing a guy out of nowhere, which will be pretty hard considering how we've exhausted practically all possibilities on this BBS!
i understand where the 4.7m comes from b/c of BYC but what does that have to do with clearing salary? if he simply meant trading 4.7m extra to appease the BYC gods but phrased it as "clearing" salary, then i get what he meant. if he actually meant clearing salary off the books, then i don't get what GATER meant.
You guys need to stop dreaming about Bibby....that ain't never going to happen in a million chance. I thought Rox's fans are supposed to be more knowledge than this...why the hell would the Kings give up on Bibby, Bobby or even Webber. I live in Sacramento and I am a HUGE Kings fan and I know there is no way in hell they will give away any of their core players. The only player that you can touch is Divac and Kings probably won't sign him cuz he's old. So stop posting and even mentioning any Kings player on this board because it ain't never EVER going to happen and that's the end of discussion!
... yeah, just because Doc said the trade would come out of NO WHERE, didn't mean it would make NO SENSE. Just because we received a lopsided trade with TMac, does not now mean that every team is going to give us their star players in a trade. What happened with TMac made sense. What you guys are saying about Bibby, doesn't.
Maybe Doc Rocket means a player that has not been discussed in the main stream media. The only PG with the #8 (assuming that ":08" is a clue) is Ridnour of Seattle. Since we need both, a starting PG & a backup center, I could see us trading the TE/Gaines or Nachbar for Ridnour/their choice of center. Most likely Booth. With the early, positive results of Swift in the Summer Leagues, Seattle now has 4 centers on their roster with a combined payroll of more than $18 million. If we assume that they've decided to go with Daniels as their starter for this year, dumping Booth's contract for the TE will put them at ~$10-11 million in signed contracts for next year & make them major players in free agency. Both James & Potapenko's contracts expire after this year, while Booth has 2 more years left after this year.
Okay, just to repeat, the 8 second comment is meant to signify getting across half court before an 8 second violation.
Okay, just to repeat, Doc Rocket is known for speaking cryptically. The fact that he made a point of the :08 seconds to get the ball across the line, rather than the 24 second possesion clock, tends to make one think that he's giving us a clue. He can't come straight out & tell you what his sources might have told him, before the trade goes down. So, he drops hints for us to ponder over. Does it seem impossible to believe that during the Rocket's trade converations with Seattle for Daniels, that another trade was proposed involving Ridnour? Perhaps Seattle is more willing to trade Ridnour than Daniels. Especially, if it rids them of a bad contract.
i'm happy. a 6 year contract for a guy that couldn't shoot over 40% with two of the top five players in the league as teammates last year. i've been against dfish all along and i'm very glad we didn't sign him. i'd rather have about 28 point guards before him, okay that's exaggerating but maybe 24.
They are both cryptic just because of the nature of the information they provide. However if you had to compare "cryptic-ness", I think Doc is more so than popeye. I specifically remember a few years back for a brief amount of time when all of his post were extremely cryptic in nature, which spawned a billion interpretations of the possible meanings. It actually became quite comical, reading people’s imaginations reach huge leaping conclusions, similar to... us getting Bibby in this thread.
Pondering the obviously impending trade that will propel the Rockets to certain victory and doubtless give meaning to our lives… Clue 1: DRIBBLE, DRIBBLE, DRIBBLE DRIBBLE, DRIBBLE, DRIBBLE = 3 worthy point guards = one point guard too many Clue 2: the qualifier “relatively” in “relatively young” If someone tells me that a blind date is “relatively” attractive, I know I must immediately brace myself for an evening contemplating the possibility of inner beauty, or, failing that, commence getting liquored up. My conclusion: this means our PG of the future would not be considered outright young, ruling out Heinrich, Ridnour, NY’s Williams & Duhon. Clue 3: NOWHERE As previous Rockets good new has been encoded (See Doc Rocket’s signature.), I’m going to follow the poster’s suggestion who cited the New Orleans Jazzhornets (Wouldn’t the New Orleans Hurricane(s) be a better appellation?). 3 point guards = Baron Davis, David Wesley, and Darrel Armstrong I say the answer is David Wesley. He’s been playing as an undersized 2 for a few years now, but he’s got point guard size. Decent mid-range and outside shooter, could feast off of Yao and driving T-Mac outlets. Maybe not a natural point guard (though he did get 7+ assists as the Celtics PG), but respected for his basketball smarts. Considered unselfish, a team player to move to the SG and defer to Davis a few years ago. OK, not stellar, defensively. New Orleans just drafted a shooting guard (albeit a high schooler) to supplant him. David Wesley is my bet. (However, this does ignores clue 4: “:08 second.” Two options with this. Either we’re getting sloppy seconds, i.e. a player recently traded or a player supplanted in depth chart by trade. Or a player who wears number 8 [Anybody knoew where you can search all NBA players by jersey number?], or a player who came from the former Big 8 Conference. Hmm??? That would make him a relative graybeard, but that might contradict Clue 2.) I’m still confused. Deconstructing Finnegan’s Wake is easier than Doc Rocket. Oh well, I'm still readying the confetti.
Well, if that's the only need we require for our starting PG, I'll see your 4.5ast/1.7to in 27 min and raise you 5.8 ast/1.2 to in 24min with Damon Jones. Not to mention, he shoots A LOT better from the 3pt line, WAAAAY better.
I figured it out. The :08 second clue is how long a bull rider has to stay on the bull. We're trading for a bull rider!
By the way, if it's Ridnour, here's a good read about his current conditioning. Oh yeah, keep an eye out for him being pulled from their summer league team. If it happens, it could be a sign he's being traded. Ridnour buffed for battle Ridnour buffed for battle Guard has done double duty on own By DANNY O'NEIL SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER His arms don't get compared to pythons, but they can't be called pipe cleaners anymore, either. From the look of Luke Ridnour's triceps, the workouts started as soon as the season ended. Actually, he took about a week off before starting a regimen that often included two basketball workouts a day. "He's a little crazy when it comes that," teammate Nick Collison said. In college at Oregon, Ridnour put athletic tape over the door latch so he could sneak into the gym at night. This summer, he often started in the morning at the Bellevue Pro Club and went to Seattle in the evening to play against teammates. And this is the time of year he's supposed to be resting up to make sure he doesn't wear out next season. "I make sure I take a couple of days off," he said. "I'm not used to having this much time. That's a lot of time, but it has been good for me because I can really work on things I know I have to work on." For the Sonics, internal improvement is the only thing that will put them back in the playoffs because they have yet to make an acquisition this summer. Teams could begin signing free agents yesterday. Utah added Carlos Boozer and Mehmet Okur to the frontcourt. Phoenix added Steve Nash to the backcourt and has Quentin Richardson of the Clippers signed an offer sheet. The Sonics, who have lost Brent Barry, are still in consideration for Derek Fisher, but general manager Rick Sund said the aim of making the playoffs will depend upon another All-Star season from Ray Allen, another year of improvement from Rashard Lewis and the continued development of the young quartet of Vladimir Radmanovic, Ronald Murray, Collison and Ridnour. This summer, Ridnour has worked to make sure his body will be up to the challenge after an up-and-down rookie season. In November, he was the fourth-quarter difference in victories over New York and Houston. In January, he did not play in a game he was healthy for the first time in his career. In March, he stayed on the bench for five consecutive games. All season, coach Nate McMillan said the ups and downs were to be expected in a rookie season. As soon as the season ended, Ridnour had a to-do list of getting stronger and becoming a more consistent outside shooter. He weighs 175 pounds, almost 10 more than he did last season, and his triceps are rainbows of ropey muscle. Yesterday, Ridnour did multiple sets of biceps curls after the morning practice. The physical difference is evident. "He was a better defender than I thought he would be," said guard Mateen Cleaves, a summer training camp invitee. For most NBA players, two-a-days arrive in October with training camp. Ridnour started them this summer. At the Bellevue Pro Club, he had shooting drills with live defenders to simulate situations. In the evenings, he worked out with teammates at the Sonics' practice facility. The release to his jump shot is still low, almost a chest heave. His elevation is almost like a bunny hop, but his outside shot is more consistent. That's partly because as a rookie he learned where his shots would come on the floor. Ridnour couldn't play last summer because he was recovering from an injured abdominal muscle that required surgery. He wasn't cleared to practice at full speed until the middle of training camp and spent the whole season playing catch-up. This summer, he's ahead of the curve. SWIFT SIGNATURE: First-round draft pick Robert Swift signed his rookie contract last night. The contract is guaranteed for three years, and the salary is based on a sliding scale for first-round picks. As the No. 12 pick in the draft, the salary slot is $4.4 million and the contract must be within 20 percent of that figure. It's industry standard for the contract to be 20 percent above scale, which means Swift's agreement will be for $5.3 million with a first-year salary of about $1.7 million. CUTTING DOWN: The Sonics will bring 11 players to the Rocky Mountain Revue summer league, where they begin play tomorrow. Besides Ridnour (Oregon '03), Collison (Kansas '03), Swift (Bakersfield HS, Calif.) and Cleaves (Michigan State '00), the roster includes: F Josh Powell (N.C. State '03); F James Singleton (Murray State '03); F Leon Smith (Martin Luther King HS, Chicago, '99); G Jeff Trepagnier (USC '01); F Damien Wilkins (N.C. State '01); G David Young (N.C. Central '04); and G Derrick Zimmerman (Mississippi State '03).
