[Depressed] Possible reason for struggles with weight..

Joint alignment? Lymph flow? Breathing? What the **** are you talking about?

If he had trouble with 'lymph flow', he'd be edematous and not showing up with dry skin, temperature insensitivity and fatigue.

You should keep your hocus-pocus and treating made up diseases to yourself while leaving real medical illnesses to the professionals.

 

He's sending him to an endocrinologist who will order the free T4 and TSH exams.

 

Fair enough, but any doctor should have ordered a thyroid panel first. You don't HAVE TO see a specialist for something as common as a thyroid disorder.

 

Agreed.

 

What made up diseases did i mention? I was listing things that could be affected, not necessarily what would solve his problem. I apoligize to him for that mistake, as it can cause confusion.

Breathing could be related to some problems he's had. If he can't breathe properly and take in a sufficient oxygen, then he'll be tired.

His eye twitching can be a muscular issue. A muscle spasm due to a misaligment around his neck.

Not sure where you got temperature insensitivity from, unless i missed it, he didnt mention that.

Why are you reacting so strongly to my comment? It's not crazy thinking, if your aligment is screwed, then your body doesn't functioning correctly. How much is compromised depends on how bad the problem is and where. Lots of variances to it.

 

Also, he never said he wasn't suffering from edema anywhere, you're assuming he doesn't. If it's throughout the body it could account for some of the apparent weight he's having trouble losing.

Mathloom, it's something worth looking at if the test is negative or positive. Having good posture and aligment only benefits your body and allows it to function like intended. Imagine your car's engine block and all tha it contains. What would happen if you stretched it? Twisted it one way? compressed it another? For one, hoses would stretch, eventually tear, or would be blocked off. Your car would struggle to work like it should and problems could spread around.

 

Sufficient oxygen? If he was hypoxic, he would be acidodic. Acidosis is not something most people walk into ambulatory care with as their illness. Most people with hypoxia are concerned about dying, not weight gain and depression.

Neck alignment problems causing muscle twitching? So now you are showing you're just making things up as you go along. The nerves the innervated the eye are cranial in origin, not spinal.

Temperature insensitivity is a result of inactivity of a class of ion channels that would generate heat since T3 is not around to activate it.

The man gained 20 pounds in a month, and he has a real medical issue. I am reacting because it is trash like yourself spreading misinformation that encourages sick people to not seek real medical care.

 

Except the human body is not a car. Any migrant worker can be a mechanic, but only a select few can become a physician.

 

Dude, seriously, relax.

 

Turns out those drugs you took for getting in shape didn't work out so well ah?

Live and learn I guess.

 

FFB has chili and beans. I have pseudo-science. We are all on a crusade against injustices.

 

Are you the dude in the article?

 

No, but I know Q and his family pretty well.

 

Look, you don't have to be freakin hypoxic to not be getting enough oxygen. The guy said he was tired, not losing limbs here. What happens when you run fast? You eventually struggle to breathe/get oxygen and what does that mean? You get TIRED! If you become better at sucking in the oxygen, then you wont get tired. It's why you become conditioned.

Have you ever heard of Anatomy Trains? You can have connections across the body that go beyond where the nerve is innervated. It's the reason why a shoulder issue can really be a foot issue or vice versa.

You can try and continue to impress me, while trying to intimidate me with you medical knowledge, but you need to get your head out of your ass and realize there's more to curing the body than what you can learn in medical school (i'm assuming you are or have been, otherwise this is worse than i though). If could learn everything there is to know in school then doctors would be perfect. I can tell you from first hand experience they're not. I spent years getting shot up with anti-inflammatory steroids, given orthotics, told to get more rest, given braces, and even simply told there was nothing wrong at all, all from different "professionals". Finally, all it took was no more than knowledge the knowledge of someone with a 4 year degree to pinpoint the problem.

Quit being a jerk about it, calling me trash like i go around the board telling people not to seek medical care. I made ONE comment, that was in part not clear by my own fault, but also misinterpreted by yourself, and now i'm trash? If that was my agenda i would have said something else in my initial post, other than telling him to wait for the test results. I'm trying to help the guy and you're now taking everything to the literal extreme and assuming worst case scenario.

My apologies to Mathloom for blowing up in his thread.

 

You overreacted. RV6 is a good guy and was only offering alternatives should the thyroid not be the issue. He isn't claiming to be an expert or suggesting this dude doesn't see a medical doctor.

For the record, I have huge respect for doctors but they don't always get it right as I know from over 20 years of being misdiagnosed by at least half a dozen doctors.

 

My comparison wasnt to be taken literally. I'm sure he understood that i was trying to simplify what i was trying to explain to him and paint a picture anyone would understand.

If an actual doctor was speaking to someone who didn't understand the importance of having a heart, would he be trash for trying to simplify things and explain to his patient that it's like the engine inside a car? Should he instead bust out the most complicated and lengthy medical terms/explanations he can think of instead?

And you probably won't care, but i saw the whole series on ABC that featured that doctor, as well as the previous one that had been aired about a year or two ago, (Hopkins, Boston Med) because i enjoy them and the cases they bring forth. I realize there's hard working doctors, who know when to think outside the box they grew up within, but there's also plenty who don't know there's something outside or simply don't bother.

 

Cool. Do you know if someone is dumb enough to inject themselves with HGH and take T3 if they could cause medical problems later.

Let's say, depression and weight control issues?

 

Chronic GH with testosterone use hasn't really been shown to improve much of anything after your growth plates fuse besides 'sprint speed' (I was surprised when I heard that). GH's target is the liver, and it releases insulin growth factor.

Chronic exogenous T3 would cause your pituitary to stop making TSH and the hypothalamus to stop making TRH(unmeasurable) and when T3 stopped, you would be probably be slow to recover.

 

In order to simplify, you must comprehend the complex. You were just making things up that sounded reasonable to an untrained person.

Doctors do not use an alignment analogy to describe why patient's are feeling ill. That's what a Chiropractor would do.

Having been trained by these guys, I know how they think. They would be sued for missing an easy diagnosis like hypoxia or edema (and rightfully so). So when a person comes in describing the symptoms hypothyroidism, you can be sure the doctor is considering other diagnoses but they are ones that match the pathophysiology.

 

But last of all..

I apologize for being a condescending ass.