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[Denver Post] Rockets Still interested in Wells...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by supertruck97, Sep 15, 2006.

  1. Francis3422

    Francis3422 Member

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    If there is any allure, as far as us being a team that Bonzii could play a lot and prove a key cog in a championship run, then we may have a chance. I think he knows Miami is overstocked. He would play, but he wouldnt be as prominent in his role as with the Rox or Nugs. The Nugs arent bad, but I think we will be better.
     
  2. Francis3422

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    Lets take a look at Bonzi's numbers (I have watched him play a bit, but I admit I am a bit unfamiliar with his season and post season stats, so I decided to take a glance)...... Bonzi is actually a .335 career 3pt shooter to with a a .464 career average. 4.7 rebounds a game and 2.3 assists. Not bad offensive numbers anywhere. Obviously he is not a great 3 pt shootr, and those averages would probably not rise, in this system. But not bad, considering what he brings. He makes the shots he takes. And adds a lot on D and rebounding.
     
  3. jopatmc

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    I think we'd snap him up for what's left of our MLE. Give him the one year with options on years 2 and 3 and worse case scenario he is a tradable asset. He probably wants a no trade though.
     
  4. MrButtocks

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    We have no chance at him. Sure, it'd be nice to have him. But first you have to make sure his head is on straight, that he can get along with Van Gundy, and that he actually wants to be here.

    He's fishing for a contract for next year, thus he wants to be showcased. Miami has Shaq and Wade dominating the stat lines and Bonzi is no ideal SF for them. We have Yao and Tracy so Wells might possibly, more like probably, not even get to start here. Meanwhile, Denver has only Carmelo to score. Bonzi may not be a shooter, but they need offense wherever they can get it and he's got it. And they have 3mil to throw at him. And they sign and trade someone like Reggie Evans to get him.

    Forget it.
     
  5. hooroo

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    All those two-guards and not one of them ideal to start.
     
  6. Francis3422

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    Personally, as long as both Yao and Tmac are healthy and there for the playoffs, I think Bonzi puts us at least in the WCF

    We would be a very deep team.

    We forget that Battier will be on the perimeter.

    We can use Bonzi. Lets hope the Rockets, realize that this is their mulligan on the Mike James bogey.
     
  7. Rookie34

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    I agree 100% dude! The 2007 FA class is much better and I think a 2007 FA could give us more chance to win the championship in 2008! No doubt about that! :D
     
  8. kingkow

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    As a fan myself I would not want to see a player who has consistent off and on court issues. I dont want to see our management wasting money on the sort of guys who are not self-motivated enough at all. Wells did not produce outstanding performance until in late season and playoff. If Bonzi was really this good, then how come Rick Adelman didn't put him back on the starting lineup in the first place after this injury? I'd rather take bonzi with the remaining MLE and trade him for Kevin Martin ( I mean i wish), at least Kevin knows what is meant by good player ethics, young and show signs of talent.

    Some people say that Wells is only willing to play for a championship team, but is our team really on the road of being the champs? I asked alot of non-rox people and they believe that its still quite a few moves before it can even be considered as a conference contender. I'm sure bonzi will notice this thing also.

    Bonzi was also looking for a long term contract, his intentions are serious as he fired his agent, which could have easily get him into another 1 year contract. Is Rox willing to sign a long term deal? Nahh

    Conclusion : Wells is not coming to the ROX FOR SURE! (btw im not a wells hater)
     
  9. aussie rocket

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    not a bad post there kingkow. Keep it up and i'm sure your dreams of membership within the clutchfans community will come about (i'd predict around about the start of the new season) :)

    hang in there.
     
  10. Possum

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    I am! I will never root for Wells. He is a thug. I really hope we arent considering him.
     
  11. kingkow

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    ahha i will try and fill up as much space as possible next time or just hold on to the X button for 1 minute
     
  12. Sofine81

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    If we get Bonzi there are two scenarios.

    1. He plays good for us and is all we could hope for.
    2. He plays terrible for us and we have to trade him mid season.
    3. He plays good but is a mental case we trade him mid season.

    If 1. Happens, We go to playoffs and maybe make some noise.

    If 2. Happens, We trade and we will get a little more than we got for Anderson.

    If 3. Happens, We trade him and we get somebody that we can insert as a starter or maybe even sixth man.

    In short, I cant see a losing scenario when I look Wells.
     
  13. ed_tx

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    If we get Bonzi, JVG will lose what little hair he has left.
     
  14. jopatmc

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    Doubt it. Look at the guys that JVG has coached throughout the years. If we get Bonzi, it is going to be on our terms. He can come here and play like JVG wants him to play or if he comes here and is a disruption, he will be gone. It's very simple and very evident what our front office is doing. If Bonzi comes here it will be on our terms. And it will likely be a 3 year contract with a player option on years 2 and 3, that he is obviously going to exercise, so we can trade him like an expiring contract if it does not work here. Else, we S&T for him using the TE, which I don't think is doable. Sac has no incentive to help us out by S&Ting him to us for nothing and we have no reason to pay them for the privelege. He either comes here on our terms or he doesn't. It's really that simple.

    Bonzi knows he's up against it. He knows that to even get a MLE deal next year, he has to be in a position where he plays minutes and he plays his you know what off. The opportunity is gone for him to get a bigger money long term deal this year. The only thing left now is scraps. So, he can play for scraps and make a serious contribution to a contender or he can play for scraps for some scrub team. There's no doubt that we are interested in that kind of situation but we will dictate the terms, not Bonzi.

    He can go to Miami and fight Pose and Walker for minutes.

    He can go to Denver and get a lot of minutes at the swing position.

    He can come here and get a lot of minutes at the swing position.

    I think Bonzi's decision comes down to which team he thinks has a better shot. He's also got the McGrady factor here in Houston. Remember, him and McGrady haven't exactly gotten along in the past. So, that's a negative for him here. At the same time, if he is smart, he would rather play with Yao and McGrady, then he would Melo and ........... In my biased opinion, Denver with Bonzi on their team is still fighting for 6-8 seeding. They've got the Martin situation to deal with. They basically have one shooter in Melo. Nobody else can shoot for .... And Bonzi's not a bomber. He's got to be able to see that his game mixed with the rest of theirs amounts to Melo shooting 3 balls and everybody else clogging up the offensive paint. But he probably would get a few more touches there than here. If he comes here, he's got a training camp battle with Snyder to win and then he's got to mesh his touches with our big 3.

    Bonzi has a very interesting decision to make.
     
  15. Pocket Rockets

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    I have been preaching (not here of course) for the rockets to pick up bonzi wells, i remember when we had the full mle i wanted to use it on him, but most of the people here said it wasn't enough, which is understandable.

    im sure he would jump at that chance now if we had it, so now we need to figure out another way to get him on board. WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE!

    we don't have any chemistry now anyways, so might as well try it.

    i think this would at least get us to the 2nd round and if the chemistry works really well possibly wcf.
     
  16. DraftBoy10

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    I wouldn't trade Head for a 1-year rental of Bonzi, it has to be a 3 year guaranteed contract, 4th year team option.
     
  17. xiki

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    Has Bonzo hired a new agent? If so, when is the agent allowed to negotiate for him?
     
  18. jopatmc

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    So, we sign Bonzi, then trade Juwan, Luther, and Rybo to Portland for either Raef Lafrentz or Darius Miles and there's your team. Shooting and perimeter defense.

    Portland is after expiring contracts to become a player in free agency next year with a young nucleus. Rumors a few weeks ago was Juwan to Lakers for expiring deals.

    We keep adding players to our roster. There's got to be something in the works down the road. We are one of a few teams including Indy who are over the limit on players. Yeah, I know CJ's and KA's contracts aren't guaranteed, but at least CJ has a partial guarantee. Why would we even give him that unless we were going to have a roster spot available. All we had to do was bring another couple of non-roster guys to camp to compete with KA for the last spot. And we give CJ some guaranteed money. And now the rumor is that we are sniffing around Bonzi. That indicates to me that there is probably a multi-player trade that is already in the works and will go down in some form or another in the next couple months.

    I'm sorry to keep coming back to Portland but they are a logical trading partner. They want to get younger, and get rid of payroll. They know they are going to be bad this year. If they could figure out how to unload Zach, Darius, and Raef for some combo of expiring contracts, picks, and younger talent, they will move those guys, all of them. They just signed Prczbilla. He is their center. And Roy and Webster are two other pieces they are building around. They need cap space, picks, and talent.

    And both guys I mentioned are overpaid for what they give, but so is Juwan and half the league. You bring in Bonzi and Raef and you've got the ability to go big with shooting, shot blocking, rebounding, and perimeter defense and you've got the ability to go small with the same good shooting, shot blocking, rebounding, and perimeter defense. You bring in Miles with Bonzi and yes, you've got the risk of chemistry problems. But can you imagine the defense that we would have with JVG coaching Yao, McGrady, Battier, Wells, and Miles, not to mention Snyder???? We would be able to hold teams to 80 ppg.

    Miles is one of the most versatile athletes in the NBA with the ability to check 2s, 3s, and 4s very well and even check 1s and 5s against certain matchups. And Raef is one of the 3 or 4 best 3 point shooting 4/5 in the league. He's right up there with Brad Miller and Jamison from 3 point land. And he is underrated defensively, being a very good shot blocker and intimidator in the paint.

    If we are able to acquire Bonzi and either of the 2 players I just mentioned, I think we are in the Finals. I don't think Dallas or SA can beat us in a 7 game series. Bonzi is a better Stackhouse than Stackhouse and the combination of Yao and either Battier or Raef at the 4 is going to give Duncan fits defensively. Duncan can't control Yao in the paint by himself and he can't guard a 3 point shooting power forward. Not to mention, on the other side of the floor McGrady and Battier/Wells operating against Manu and Bowen.
     
  19. themocitydon

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    the rockets will be idiots if they let bonzi wells slip through their fingers. hell the rockets are making our competition better and better. :mad:
     
  20. xiki

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    Why would Rox take Miles when said HELL NO to him when he was offered with Roy, whom they really wanted?

    Rumors of Howard to Lakes? I don't remember that. I remember some apparent jerk jerking around, however.
     

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