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[Denver Post] Rockets Still interested in Wells...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by supertruck97, Sep 15, 2006.

  1. Van Gundier

    Van Gundier Member

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    I am 120 percent sure Juwan sucks against fast teams. Too slow to run with them and not good enough a rebounder to punish smaller lineups.
     
  2. jbond77

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    I think the thread is now doomed to be the mike james thread, oh well focus your dormant psychic image at once on that 4.2 s and trade
     
  3. jopatmc

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    Somebody needs to get ahold of Matress Mac and get him to offer Bonzi free furniture and a $1 million/year contract to do advertisements for him to make up the difference. This is outside the salary cap, right? :)
     
  4. Pocket Rockets

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    BONZI, PLEASE REPORT TO THE HOUSTON ROCKETS TRAINING CAMP IMMEDIATELY!
     
  5. krosfyah

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    You can always tell a Juwan hater because they make outragously asinine statements like "120% sure Juwan sucks...". Thanks for that contribution.

    My guess is that Juwan will be our starter ...which is the same guess I had last summer when all the wishful thinkers (aka, Juwan haters) were dreaming of Stromile as our starter.

    Yawn. Boy I can't wait until the season starts.
     
  6. Pocket Rockets

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    and what's wrong with being a juwan hater?
    he is rated in the bottom third pf in the nba...heck i would start chuck hayes in front of him, at least hayes will get you more rebounds.
     
  7. BigM

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    so juwan doesn't suck against fast teams? :confused:
     
  8. sammy

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    This is off topic but Juwan sucks and I love being a Juwan hater. Juwan makes it so easy to be one.
     
  9. krosfyah

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    Chucky Brown and Pete Chilcutt were our primary PF's the 2nd year of our championship.

    You don't need top notch players at every position, particularly if you have two of the most dominant at their position. What you need is players that know their role and can do it consistently (why Stromile is gone...inconsistent).

    If we don't win a championship this season, it won't be because of Juwan Howard. It'll be because TMac and/or Yao don't carry the team plus lack of solid outside shooting.

    Hate Juwan all you want but your hate is misdirected.

    blah blah blah. Has the season started yet?
     
  10. thewaterox

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    What Shay Brown was a top notch PF if we ever had one. He destroyed Barkley in the playoffs. :D
     
  11. Yetti

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    Bonzi Wells met with the Bobcats last Thursday and no contract was offered.
    He is supposed to be meeting with Heat this weekend, possibly to-day.
     
  12. Pocket Rockets

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    i don't believe its misdirected.
    I know you remember that pete and chucky were replaced with horry at the 4 and elie at the 3 midway through the spurs series.
    chucky and pete knew their roles, chucky would rebound and pete would nail outside jumpers.
    juwan really doesn't know his role, yes its because one game he is the primary scorer and the next hes 3rd leading scorer. But he has no post up game whatsoever, all he has is that 15 ft jumper face up but hes not that consistent with it either, coupled with the fact he can't rebound makes him a liability on the court.
    its the stars that take us to the next level but it will be the role players that will make us a championship team. stars get doubled teamed in the crunch, who do you turn to then? our role players.
     
  13. canoner2002

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    Seems Bobcats want to see what to do with Ely first. If somehow we get Ely for a $10mil/3year contract, I think it is probably better than getting wells for a 1-year rental. Ely can play 4 and 5 and his D is not bad. Deke is declining fast and we need improvement on 4.
     
  14. jopatmc

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    A backup to one of the best 2 players on our team, who is going to average maybe 8 minutes per game, a couple of boards and a couple of fouls being paid $3 million + is more important than a double digit scoring, very definitive 3rd or at the worst 4th scoring option, starting player or at worst first man of the bench who is going to give you in the neighborhood of 25-30 minutes per game, 12-15 points, and around 6-8 boards?????

    Come on now. Get real.
     
  15. canoner2002

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    Ely can also play 4. And in case Yao misses a few games, a backup C will be 10x more valuable than another SF.

    Look, we have got Tmac, Battier, Snyder, Head, Vspan all capable of playing 2 and 3 (there won't be much difference to JVG). And I'd even play Novak at 3 instead of 4. Adding Wells will help for sure, but I am still worried about our front court, and Wells cannot play 4.

    Last summer I felt quite comfortable with our front court, this year I am worried. Deke is not even half as good as his first season here. Swift turned out to be failure. Howard is getting worse and worst. Only Yao improved but he got injured twice last year.

    I think we can use another big body.
     
  16. Van Gundier

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    I don't hate Juwan. Classy guy, I wish him well.

    I simply stated a fact about how he plays. There is a reason why this team had trouble vs fast teams like PHX.

    Our PFs (except Hayes) last year did not rebound well enough. Thus, teams got away with going small vs Rockets. They punished the Rockets lack of speed on the other end.

    It's not all Juwan. Rockets were slow and small at the 123, too. But he and the inconsistent Stro were a big part of the reason why teams like Phx killed the Rockets. Their 15 ft shots were not enough to overcome their deficiencies.

    Juwan is a smart player but is physically overmathed. He will only do well when the rest of the team is big and fast enough to cover for his weaknesses and take advantage of his shooting and passing. Is this year's team such a team? I can't say.

    Stro was supposed to help against the Marions and Amares of the league, and he did-- on his good nights. There were too few of them, though.
     
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    I think if Bonzi is a TEAM player and wants a RING, he will sign with MIAMI.

    If he wants to be more of a component, yet is in a position to pump his value for his next contract, he will sign with the ROCKETS.

    If he wants more money now and wants the ball more and wants to push up his average for net years contract he will sin with the BOBCATS....but Jordan will NOT renew his contract...he knows the game and who is worth it.

    If he wants to be second fiddle on a mediocre jumpshooting team who could expose his age perhaps or allow him to jack up ill advised shots like his counterpart he will join the NUGGETS.

    I think the rockets are his best option but if he picks the bobcats or nuggets IMO we would have potentially dodged a bullet...in no way would he have been a good team player.
     
  18. D-rock

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    I feel the opposite. Bonzi should start at SG. He would complement Battier at PG with his post game (vs. Battier's perimeter game) and rebounding.

    Who I want as the Rockets' 6th man is Darius Miles. The trade to Portland for Juwan should still be viable.

    Miles would be a proven starter at SF should McGrady get injured again. Miles addition would maintain the athleticism and length at the 3 while allowing Battier to stay at the 4 (VG's floor spacing 3 pt shooting 4).


    Actually that is counter to what Bonzi has said. He could be talking out of his tail, or be crazy as a loon like James, but I tend to doubt it. Bonzi may want a big payday (who doesn't?) but this guy has not ever babbled about MVP status that I ever heard.

    Besides, Yao has become Houston's primary scorer. Until Tracy can prove, for an entire season that his back is 100%, then this will not change. Yao is younger, much improved, and now drives the franchise.

    Bonzi may not be my first option to play SG for the Rockets, but his addition would make this team better and bring it another step closer to championship contention.

    This is a complete no brainer.
     
  19. leroy

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    But then what do you do at PF? I don't think Chuck Hayes is ready for potentially 30+ minutes at PF. Battier isn't going to play there exclusively. Miles would make a nice 6th man. But we still need depth at PF and that is the minumum that Howard gives.
     
  20. jopatmc

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    At this stage of his career, Juwan is not a 4. He cannot play against starting PFs and he cannot play worth a flip against backup PFs. He is simply too slow, too old, to nonathletic, and did I mention he is too slow. The only minutes he should be playing on this is as the backup 5 when Yao is not in the game.

    With that in mind, you play Battier, Lil Chuckie at PF and then if you have Darius Miles, you can run him out there at the 4 as well. If.............we were able to get Bonzi, we then have the extra pieces to make a trade with Juwan for your backup 4/5 if you feel that we need a backup 4/5. And that backup could be a player like Ely, or it could be a player like Raef that will block some shots and shoot the 3 ball for you.

    I'll take either Miles or Raef on this team. If we had Miles, we would be hands down the best defensive team in the league, especially if you had Bonzi also to go along with Tmac and Battier. We would simply be the best perimeter defense going.

    A big, bulky interior playing backup 4/5 who cannot go to the perimeter and cannot give you anything offensively outside of put backs would be useful to some degree but is a low priority item on this team at this juncture.
     

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