1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Denny's choking/strangulation case

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by asianballa23, Jun 7, 2017.

  1. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    64,226
    Likes Received:
    26,979
    Right and you are an example of someone who wants to lynch the victim in this case. I accept that.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    42,810
    Likes Received:
    3,013

    I saw some evidence the prosecution wanted to present last week that made it in. The victim picking another fight on surveillance and i believe that person who he was picking the other fight with testified for the prosecution. Its gonna be hard to convict the accused of anything simply because the victim isn't sympathetic.

    Bottom line his inebriation is the overriding factor or at least its hard for jurors to dismiss
     
  3. Newlin

    Newlin Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2015
    Messages:
    8,152
    Likes Received:
    9,960
    Oh. Ok, I see where you are going with this. Well, the killer was charged and went to trial and may go to trial again. His law enforcement wife was also charged and lost her job over this incident. My guess is that they are sorry they chose to intervene. Don't tell me they couldn't have avoided getting involved until uniformed police had arrived. You don't know that.

    You and I were not on the jury, so we don't know exactly what happened because we haven't heard all the testimony. And even then, it depends on what you want to believe.
     
    edwardc likes this.
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    46,875
    Likes Received:
    18,610
    I don't think he should go to jail for life. I don't even believe in the death penalty. I believe that heat of the moment decisions have consequences. It's like the guy who gets in a fight and decides that curb stomping is ok. It's like the drunk guy getting into the car.

    The Thompon's had a clear choice to let go of Hernandez and chose not to. The choke killed him and they have to pay the piper. It's a bad decision that they now regret. Like the Pharmacist that went back and shot the robber in the head after he was already wounded on the ground.
     
    edwardc and Newlin like this.
  5. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    64,226
    Likes Received:
    26,979
    Well yeah, they likely hate that they were attacked by a minority and not a white person because the ethnic background of the attacker is the only reason they were charged.They should have noticed the different color skin and just run away.
     
  6. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    46,875
    Likes Received:
    18,610
    Dude murder is murder. Negligent homicide is Negligent homicide. Being a drunk guy, or a robber

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/43710936/...acist-sentenced-life-killing-would-be-robber/
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    42,810
    Likes Received:
    3,013
  8. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    46,875
    Likes Received:
    18,610
    He wasn't a cop. He did take BBJ classes on weekends though.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    64,226
    Likes Received:
    26,979
    ....and it was neither murder or manslaughter legally. Self defense is a legal defense against either charge and the victim was clearly attacked by the drunk pisser. Just admit you want him lynched due to the skin color of those involved, it's okay, everyone knows anyway.
     
  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    42,810
    Likes Received:
    3,013
    Sorry i thought they were both cops. My bad
     
  11. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    46,875
    Likes Received:
    18,610
    Holy Projection Batman!

    I don't care if he choked a white guy or a purple guy. If Terry would have punched him in the face so hard that the guy died the next day in his sleep I wouldn't bat an eye.

    If I fight you Bobby and i get a choke hold on you, you're tapping out, going purple and people are telling me to stop because I'm killing you would you say I have all the right not just ignore and finish you off? I have a soul, I would let go and wait for the cops like a decent human being.
     
    Newlin, DonnyMost and pgabriel like this.
  12. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    64,226
    Likes Received:
    26,979
    You are assuming intent in your example and there was no such intent....especially given that CPR was performed by the accused when it was realized that he was not breathing.

    This was nothing more than an unfortunate accident that happened while attempting to subdue a drunk attacker. If the deceased was white and the victim was black or Hispanic, this wouldn't be a story and there wouldn't be charges. That's just how it is.
     
  13. Newlin

    Newlin Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2015
    Messages:
    8,152
    Likes Received:
    9,960
    No, he wasn't a cop. His wife was a cop, and she got fired over this incident.
     
    pgabriel likes this.
  14. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    46,875
    Likes Received:
    18,610
    The only reason this story got big was the video. It’s gruesome. The video showed a fat man choking a guy to death while people were screaming for him to get off.

    That and because there was actually a cop there, not attempting to save the guys life.
     
    Newlin likes this.
  15. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    64,226
    Likes Received:
    26,979
    If they had immediately let the attacker up, don't you think he'd have continued the attack?

    Forcibly subduing an attacker, especially a drunk attacker, never looks pretty, but that doesn't mean that the victim is trying to kik the attacker, just prevent the attack from continuing.

    The only reason the story got so big was the presumption of racism. Make it two people of the same race and ethnicity and it's not worth a second look because despite the fluke outcome, things like this happen all the time.
     
  16. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    47,566
    Likes Received:
    17,282
    Yep.

    The defendant had the man subdued. He was no longer a threat. Instead of just maintaining control, he chose unwisely to continue to applying deadly force, and he killed him.

    Given no intent, this is basically manslaughter 101.

    This case will be re-tried, and Thompson will be convicted.

    Should Thompson be punished? I don't know. I'm not sure that will help anyone.

    But, if we don't convict in situations like this, then manslaughter might as well not be a law anymore.
     
    Nook, REEKO_HTOWN and Newlin like this.
  17. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    64,226
    Likes Received:
    26,979
    Self defense is a legal defense for manslaughter, if you convict in situations like this, then self defense might as well not be a legal defense anymore.
     
  18. edwardc

    edwardc Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2003
    Messages:
    9,594
    Likes Received:
    7,864
    Wow you had to take it there really they should have just waited for a uniformed officer to get on the scene.
     
  19. Invisible Fan

    Invisible Fan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2001
    Messages:
    43,676
    Likes Received:
    25,619
    Sounds like a wild animal. Should kill to check for rabies.

    Which one? Who cares??

    DEATH!!!
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    64,226
    Likes Received:
    26,979
    Like i said, they should have seen that the person who was attacking them had a different color skin and known that means they don't have the right to defend themselves. If they had just run away and waited for cops to arrive they wouldn't become double victims
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now