Dems Agree to Drop Government-Run Insurance Option

His fingers are in his ears!

His head is in the sand!

 

Health care exchanges help provide consumers more information and more access to choices, but I don't think they really address cost. There are already health care exchanges out there - take eHealthInsurance.com for example I've been on individual insurance most of my adult life, and that's what I used to compare all the plans. Unless I'm not understanding what these new exchanges are, I don't see how it makes a real difference in costs. If all the plans are expensive, you're back to square one.

But that assumes an insurer has some kind of incentive to not just take that as profits. Where is that incentive? You could argue "free market competition", but there's two problems there. One, we already have that same competition right now and it hasn't slowed costs at all. Two, in many states, you only have one or two insurers, so where's the competition? That was sort of the purpose of the public/co-op/non-profit/etc plan.

I'm not saying scrap health care reform. I'm saying scrap the specific bill that appears to be coming out of the Senate. There's even been talk about scrapping the House-Senate conference and just sending that bill straight to the House to vote on to simplify and speed things up, though that seems to be at least a little bit less likely now.

 

It's not a hearing issue. It's an ignorance issue.

 

rhad, from Clutch's paypal e-receipt --

Description Unit price Qty Amount
mc mark paying off a bet

$20.00 USD 1 $20.00 USD
Insurance: ----
Total: $20.00 USD
Receipt No: 3959-5258-XXXX-XXXX

I still say America will be better off with a single payer system of healthcare and I will continue to be optimistic that the change will one day come.

 

Can someone give me a link to this bet?

 

I doubt the USMC will have their credit card declined on the Navy aircraft carrier if this bill is delayed. Let's be realistic here.

 

Can't remember which thread it was in, rhad offered a bet of $20 the public option would be killed; I took the bet.

 

I understand that Liberman and others are against it, because they get money from the insurance companies and want to help out the insurance companies that are making record profits.

What's your reason for being against the health care reform?

 

Compared to the banks that payroll Barney and Dodd, insurance companies make peanuts.

 

What does any of that have to do with health care?

 

Oh my bad, the excuse for healthcare is no longer economical?

All of these losers get money from the insurance. So saying that is why it is being blocked is kinda dumb.

 

If you trace the amount the insurance gives the politicians who are against it, it isn't really dumb at all.

 

I'm calling dumb. Show some numbers that equate money to votes. You want to bet more total donations given to dems than the other losers?

 

the tag line for this congress.

 

I include Dems in those that are working against health care and in favor of the insurance companies. Those numbers have already been posted in other threads.

 

The top 10 Senators to receive health care PAC money include 7 Republicans and 3 Dems. The 3 Dems are:

Lincoln, Nelson, and Baucus

The first two were 2 of the 4 Dems opposed to the public option (along with Lieberman and Landreiu), and Baucus initially strongly opposed it.

Coincidence?

 

Why would they give their money to a moderate who will vote for the bill anyway, or a conservative who won't vote for the bill? The chose two Senators that they felt would be borderline, and Baucus, the head of an important committee. It's not corruption -- its reality

 

This was money donated over the past 4 years, since well before health care reform was being discussed, and certainly before the specifics were known and even before Dems controlled the Senate.

 

Let's see.. Cali has botox Hollywood and electricity blackouts, the 6th highest tax burden of the fifty states and dip**** socialist hippies running rampant. Blech. New York is Wall Street bail outs, declining manufacturing and the second highest tax burden of the states. Texas does not support a bailout mentality, has no income tax, and has the fastest growing economy and has GNP #2, I'll stick with Texas, it's just a better and truer American place than the other two pansy, liberal hellholes. There is no comparison, really.