I met a lady the other day who had a really cute 2 year old. She seemed like she was a great mother too. Then I found out she was a Democrat and really just wanted to kill her toddler. And probably all the rest of babies at the Disney on Ice show as well. What a b****. I can't believe that Democrats are allowed to walk free on our glorious American streets and ice skating venues.
This gets almost into the unknowable. Where does being proud of the right to have an abortion start, and being proud of having had one start and end? They probably coincide or overlap. I think OS's point is a very relevant one. Are the majority who have had abortions "proud" of that? No, probably not. Is there a growing unhinged portion of the feminist left that has had one and is proud of it? Yes, I think their ranks are growing.
Well, if Conservatives are so concerned about abortion they would stop trying to kill Planned Parenthood clinics and would put more into sex education. We have tons of contraceptives and ways to prevent it even getting to abortion so I'm always very surprised when I hear about Republican lawmakers making it harder for women to get hold of such contraceptives. It's almost like they are more concerned about punishing women for having pre-marital sex more than anything else.
This is a video that helped me understand the nuance of the bill, and more so the position of the democratic party on the bill. If anybody is unsure what the hell the left's position on this is, this seems like a good watch. Like I said earlier in this thread, I personally don't support abortions being legal past somewhere between 6-8 weeks UNLESS there are medical reasons like the mother's life being at risk, or the baby having severe defects/isn't viable etc. So I'm not pro-life, nor pro-choice. With that being said, this bill doesn't seem to match up with what the right is pushing it to be, and it seems the right wing media is deliberately pushing out false narratives to rile up people who aren't aware of the actual nuance of the bill and our current laws on this situation. This is very sad and shouldn't be done with this topic. I'm all for further discussion on the nuances of the bill and abortion overall (especially with my specific views), but it's a terrible thing to deliberately push false propaganda for what I'm guessing is to ultimately just serve the purpose of gaining votes/support for the right.
This was on point and it would be nice if all the local Conservatives watched it. But I'd be surprised if they did and they will probably walk out the same tired talking point...which reminds me...Meghan, Democrats are never winning those deep red states, if they were to try to then they'd basically be Republicans. A lot of these social issues most of the country agrees with...but things like this we do sometimes, both sides, unfairly attack the opposition.
This is extraordinarily shallow minded...though not surprising that you'd think that. The only thing women are proud of when it comes to abortions is that there is a constitutional right to them. They're not proud to have one. It's not a thing people celebrate. It's an excruciating decision and one women tend to not publicize...unless the constitutional right to them is attacked. What you see and read on that website Os posted is, by any logical estimate, a VAST minority. It takes a particularly craven world view to think that women derive some sort of pleasure from that. What these women are celebrating is the ability to tell their story when they couldn't before.
The reason I defined proud earlier is because it has multiple meanings. Being proud can be a feeling of pleasure, satisfaction because of what one does. Being proud can be a feeling of inherit self-worth that is non-dependent on external factors. Perhaps the original women's right movement in the 60s are proud of achieving the right for women to have a choice, instead of the state to dictate what women can and cannot do. Perhaps the women's movement today is proud of that group, but they weren't the one that pushed for and achieved the original right. Perhaps they are proud of protecting that right. Perhaps they are proud of telling their stories, to help other women (and men that are willing to be open minded) to understand their perspective and the perspective of their family having a choice. And perhaps they are proud to believe in their self-worth instead of what people tell them what their worth is --- if you have an abortion, you are bad bad bad. As far as having an abortion, I reject the notion that anyone is proud (feeling of pleasure, having satisfaction) to have an abortion, unless they aren't right in the mind. For someone to even think that, I'm sorry, but you have very limited ability to be in other shoe.
And if there are those women that are deriving satisfaction or pleasure, they sure as s*** don't number in the millions or anywhere near it. A much much closer estimate would be in the tens.
Didn't I say in my reply to you that it was not "most"? I'm pretty sure I said that somewhere in this thread. But there is an increasingly unhinged segment of the pro-abortion/pro-choice crowd. I'm not sure how anyone could dispute that. In the "unhinged" crowd -- are they "proud" of having an abortion? Well, it gets into mind-reading territory (and so it's hard to know) -- but it would not surprise me if, in this growing segment, they do feel that way.
You haven't replied to me. So, your definition of not "most" still has the numbers in the millions of women being proud...correct? Those are your words. I'm sure your response will be something like "I'm sure it's less than 150,000,000 so therefore it's not 'most'."
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