The absence of a filibuster disenfranchises the minority, which is worse than having the filibuster. I don't want to see the "tyranny of the majority" and you shouldn't either. I note that conservatives weren't railing for the end of filibuster when the Dems were in power. I also note that the Dems never threatened to change the rules so that the GOP would be denied their minority powers.
RocketMan Tex- Rest at ease from what I've heard those camps are definately more apt to be used for my type not you. I really don't know for sure what it would look like today. Can't say I really think it is a big issue anymore. Years ago it all in America's schools. So many colleges started out as religious institutions. The Bible wasn't banned from public schools until the last 42 yrs. And I am not all that much for trying to get religion in public schools. My point is a lot of decisions to eliminate religion (in my biased world- Christian view)- in our nation have denegrated the Constitution and the religious heritage of America. If my son reads his Bible in the school lunchroom he is preventing others from freely expressing their religion. (Oops wasn't suppose to have that Bible at school) You know what, I don't want Christianity shoved down anyones throat. I really don't want Christianity promoted as America's religion. Jesus and God can work greater when His people reflect a correct image of Christian character, Biblical love. I believe in evangelism but not at the expense of mowing down others and direspecting them. I believe evangelsim is born in humility and love for others. I want to have the freedom to verbally express the message and let the hearers think freely make their own choices not be bombarded with unwanted Bible Thumping. America's religious, Christian heritage is vanishing. But that's OK I am reminded of a story about some Christians in the Roman Empire during a time a horrible plague passed through a province. This is during a time when Christians were rejected and persecuted. Romans were being infected by the plague and dying by the hundreds. Families were throwing members of their own households even children out into the streets when they suspected the plague's infection. The Christians would go down the streets in town and pick up those who were afflicted and took them in and tried to comfort them and treat them. Many more Christians died of the plague than Romans do to the practice of their faith. So we should love those who dislike us. Realizing our lives and message are not rooted in political power, but divine love.
No - you should not have religion forced on you. You are free to be non-religious. Relax not everyone is going to heaven and we are forcing anyone. Don't be frightened by the Bible or the Buddha in a public place, it will not jump on you and mess with your mind, hey I know alot of Christians who have them (Bibles) sitting in their home and I can't get the Bibles to jump on them and mess with their minds either.
we AREN'T forcing anyone to heaven- I can't type worth a lick. And my opinions aren't that organized either.
I'm going to take a wild guess and say that StupidMoniker's opposition to filibusters is akin to his opposition to affirmative action - he opposes it in principle as long as it is harmful to his own self interest, unless it is not in which case he is in favor of it.
That is the desire of the parents not the desire of the religion. Thre is no creed, or instruction in any religion that I've studied that says adorn places of public education with symbols of this religion. Not putting up statues at school doesn't prevent anyone from practicing their religion. putting it up might make someone who isn't the majority believe that the minority religion isn't accepted, or that it isn't a place for their beliefs.
Good point- especially works that way in Muslim countries But we can work it out Try to see it my way Do I have to keep on talking till I can't go on? While you see it your way Run the risk of knowing that our love may soon be gone We can work it out We can work it out Think of what you're saying You can get it wrong and still you think that it's alright Think of what I'm saying We can work it out and get it straight, or say good night We can work it out We can work it out Life is very short, and there's no time For fussing and fighting, my friend I have always thought that it's a crime So I will ask you once again Try to see it my way Only time will tell if I am right or I am wrong While you see it your way There's a chance that we may fall apart before too long We can work it out We can work it out
A ha. I knew it. rhester - as a pastor; how much wisdom do you find in Beatle tunes? I find alot. Hey Jude is crazy good. To me, there is a tiny lyric that sounds like a verse: For well you know that it's a fool Who plays it cool By making his world A little colder ------------ On a different topic, Bill Frist, Tom Delay, Dennis Hastert and all the other tools need to keep this stuff coming. It is the hubris that will bring them crashing down, I guarantee. They will lose their own flock with this garbage. "Against people of faith"? For disagreeing with them and using political tools to fight for their principles? Especially in protecting the interests of the minority? That's against "people of faith?" That IS faith, idiots.
Ooo Oooo!!! We were talking-about the space between us all And the people-who hide themselves behind a wall of illusion Never glimpse the truth-then it's far too late-when they pass away. We were talking-about the love we all could share-when we find it To try our best to hold it there-with our love With our love-we could save the world-if they only knew. Try to realise it's all within yourself No-one else can make you change And to see you're really only very small, And life flows within you and without you. We were talking-about the love that's gone so cold and the people, Who gain the world and lose their soul- They don't know-they can't see-are you one of them? When you've seen beyond yourself-then you may find, peace of mind, Is waiting there- And the time will come when you see we're all one, and life flows on within you and without you.
God is a concept By which we measure Our pain I'll say it again God is a concept By which we measure Our pain I don't believe in magic I don't believe in I-Ching I don't believe in Bible I don't believe in tarot I don't believe in Hitler I don't believe in Jesus I don't believe in Kennedy I don't believe in Buddha I don't believe in mantra I don't believe in Gita I don't believe in yoga I don't believe in kings I don't believe in Elvis I don't believe in Zimmerman I don't believe in Beatles I just believe in me Yoko and me And that's reality
CBrownFanClub I play guitar, and played in a band all through high school, you know the school dance, the VFW hall, the KC hall. I have flash back at times...na,na na, na na na na, na na na na, etc etc I play it in F major. At home my wife gives me the evil eye, she says Pastor Rick is that a hymn you are playing??????????????
I love it when Christians label other Christians as anti-Christian. They would have a higher success rate if they labeled any other group as Jewish or Muslim. I am sure there are more of those in government than anti-Christian atheists.
I don't know enough about the judges who are being held up to tell you if they would help me in any way, so I can't argue you from that point (or did I just do so?), but what part of Democrat or Republican did you find unclear? I have never, to my knowledge, advocated filibusters, and despite your insistance to the contrary, I have never advocated affirmative action. Quit being such a troll.
What? nobody has googled 'Imagine'? Ok I will: Imagine Imagine there's no heaven, It's easy if you try, No hell below us, Above us only sky, Imagine all the people living for today... Imagine there's no countries, It isnt hard to do, Nothing to kill or die for, No religion too, Imagine all the people living life in peace... Imagine no possesions, I wonder if you can, No need for greed or hunger, A brotherhood of man, Imagine all the people Sharing all the world... You may say Im a dreamer, but Im not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, And the world will live as one. Secular Humanist Power! geez I'm just asking to get burned at the stake when these whack jobs take over
StupidMoniker supports Condoleeza Rice for President because she's inter alia, " well spoken, black, and a woman" We've been over this. Maybe I'll put it into my signature since I'm about to lose most of it anyway to save me the trouble of having to remind you of it.
The gun lobby is against removing filibusters. They fear gun control provisions will go unopposed in future Congresses. I see some good removing fillibusters. Overbloated budgets will continue to pass regardless of party control. Radical policy agenda will get shot down by judicial review. Insane partisan vitriol will make every 2 years interesting to say the least...
Statement by Harry Reid- Dem leader in the House. I am disappointed that in an attempt to hide what the debate is really about, Senator Frist would exploit religion like this. Religion to me is a very personal thing. I have been a religious man all my adult life. My wife and I have lived our lives and raised our children according to the morals and values taught by the faith to which we prescribe. No one has the right to judge mine or anyone else’s personal commitment to faith and religion. God isn’t partisan. As His children, he does ask us to do our very best and treat each other with kindness. Republicans have crossed a line today. America is better than this and Republicans need to remember that. This is a democracy, not a theocracy. We are people of faith, and in many ways are doing God’s work. But we represent all Americans, regardless of religion. Our founding fathers had the superior vision to separate Church and State in our democracy. It is a fundamental principle that has allowed our great, diverse nation to grow and flourish peacefully. Blurring the line between Church and State erodes our Constitution, and our democracy. It is a blatant abuse of power. Participating in something designed to incite divisiveness and encourage contention is unacceptable. I would hope that Sen. Frist will rise above something so beyond the pale. http://atrios.blogspot.com/2005_04_10_atrios_archive.html#111360237959690138 I'm really starting to like Reid.
Rhester; I generally agree with your take on this issue but the problem is one of practicality. I agree that the Constitution doesn't ban religious expression even when it comes to government but the problem is that to allow expression by one you have to allow expression by all. You've only cited major religions but to be strictly constitutional you have to allow any religion. So while yes Constitutionally if allow a display the Ten Commandments or a statue of Buddha then Constitutionally you should allow the display of a Pentagram for Satanists, the Elk Horned Man for Druids and a statue of a naked pregnant woman for those who follow ancient Clycladic beliefs. The Constitution demands neutrality towards religion so there really is two solutions. Either allow the display of all or allow the display of none. So are you willing to tolerate Satanists displays during All Hallows Eve so you can have your Nativity scene for Christmas? There's another problem with the display of religious symbols like the Ten Commandments in places like courts is that it implies bias as opposed to neutrality. So for instance if you as a devout Christian were brought before court where the Koran was prominently displayed how could you be sure that you are being dealt with fairly or that the court was biased against you because you're not Muslim? Finally in regard to your argument that Christianity plays such a big role in our government because of all of the Bible quotes and Moses on monuments and the USSC in the DC keep in mind that also Greek and Roman Gods and Goddesses are displayed prominently too. The Goddess of Justice gracing the top of the USSC isn't Christian but ancient Roman. As for all those quotes from the founders DID YOU KNOW That Jefferson coined the phrase and advocated 'Seperation of Church and State.' DID YOU KNOW That Jefferson wrote, "And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter" DID YOU KNOW John Adams wrote: "The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion." DID YOU KNOW James Madision wrote: "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise" DID YOU KNOW Thomas Paine wrote: "(The Christian) despises the choicest gift of God to man, the Gift of Reason; and having endeavored to force upon himself the belief of a system against which reason revolts, he ungratefully calls if 'human reason' as if man could give reason to himself."
all lies in jest still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest sounds like the Right Wing religious Nazis to me.
