Why would I? We don't have a nominee yet and, aside from Lieberman, at least half the people polled couldn't pick the other guys out of a police lineup. Go find matchups between Clinton, Brown, Tsongas vs. Bush I this far out from the gen election and see if they support your position (hint: they don't). The great thing about the Bushes is we don't even have to campaign against them this far out -- they're busy beating themselves. By the way, are you ready to call the majority of the country (who now want a new president) radical, fringe, hippie, lefties? Achebe: Yes, any large group of people is dumb, but the clear indication is that, for the first time since 9/11, the American people are willing to take the stars and stripes out of their eyes and look at how Bush is actually doing. Of course the Dems aren't there yet -- they haven't even started. But Bush is giving them a hell of a head start.
What a joke! Do Democrats control the: House? Senate? Executive Branch? Supreme Court? Is there any clear Democratic candidate that stands out above the others in the primary? Do they have the fundraising ability to compete with Bush? Let me answer these questions for you, Batman: No, No, No, No, No, No It's a GREAT time to be a Democrat!! That's hilarious.
DEAD WRONG. Learn how to define majority before you go touting your latest bitter propaganda. This is a plurality, and it is within the margin of error. Get your facts straight and learn some math, Smarts.
It's a great time because the American people are finally starting to see through the ridiculous lines your people have been selling. I love to wake up in the morning and check the news (all bad for Bush and co.). It warms my heart. And it's speeding up, not slowing down. It will continue to be a great time as the election ramps up. It hasn't even started yet. But it will be an even better time if you stick around and take your lumps while it happens. We need you here. Your running buddies have all pussed out.
i was surprised to see you say that too, batman. particularly since it wasn't that long ago you were telling me the entire party lost its compass and couldn't define itself.
Awesome. What are you gonna do when the tiny little threads of not-so-bad news trend away? Think fast. It won't take long.
Why do you think the #'s are dropping because of the lies? I think it has to do with the poor economy and the slow pace of the Iraqi rebuilding. And I hope the Democrats go back to the "American public is dumb" car again. That condascending attitude really helps getting that swing vote. Maybe the voters are smart, they can have a nuanced position and say, okay, Bush exaggerated some stuff, but in the end the war was a good thing. Or maybe they are saying "what alternative did we have regarding Iraq, cuz we aren't hearing one."
Oh, Batman is utterly clueless right now. The only political experience he has is helping Jerry Brown get cremated. I would discount his analysis accordingly... He has already proven he knows how to pick a loser.
You're right. I did say that and I meant it. But this is the best reason it's a good time to be a Democrat. They have found their compass and their balls and they're defining themselves loudly and daily. The Edwards thing from Will's article plus Dean and Kerry's daily speeches are inspired, angry and consistent with mainstream America's dwindling support for Bush's failed policies. You know my politics. How could I not be loving this?
The best argument you've got today is that your side's within the margin of error of not having more Americans wanting him out than not. Heady stuff. I didn't work for Brown because I thought he could win. I sincerely don't think HE thought he could win. I worked for him because I passionately believed in his platform, especially campaign finance reform, and because I passionately believed the DLC was the worst thing that could happen to the party. Brown gave voice to that and I helped him however I could. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. It was one of the best times of my life, working my ass off to support a cause I believed in. You ever done anything like that? I mean other than making money (which we all know is your most passionate cause). I've never claimed to be an expert on politics due to my time with the Brown campaign -- only that I know a little bit about that primary season. But since you brought it up, which winning campaign did you earn your expert credentials working for? Stick around, baby. This is gonna be great.
T_J...I don't often agree with you, but i see your point here. Thing is though, your presentation is slightly less subtle than Hitler's...you can't see the world that clearly, can you? I mean, I see Batman's point...Bush has more and more lived up to the earlier claims of his critics than his supporters, and as such is painting himslef more and more as a representation of someone to be opposed...but I can also see your point. But you have this tendancy to talk about these things as if they are black and white...and we're talking about opinion here. Forgetting for the moment the fact that you have been just as dead certain in the past...and dead wrong...look at how that kind of stance appears to a person from the outside: X: " I like apples better than oranges." T_J: "DEAD WRONG! Any idiot knows that oranges are better! Which one sells more? Oranges...Case Closed..." Now I realize that Batman's statement wasn't as neutral as my analogy, but it was still an expression of opinion, based on his own criteria, and you tried to deal with it as though your criteria were the only feasible one, and moreover that your conclusion was the only one...In that he made the original statement, and you didn't even know his criteria for supporting it, don't you think that rejecting it for your own reasons as a factual error was faulty reasoning? In order to actually reject an argument you must first weigh and consider it...you never give the impression of anything but automatic rebuttle.
Cool, MacBeth, but I didn't respond to that part of J's post because I thought it was obvious he didn't have a point. I'm not sure which part of it you get. When previous elections which determined the makeup of the House, Senate and presidency were held, I obviously didn't think it was a good time to be a Democrat. I haven't thought it was a good time to be a Democrat since 1992, if you really want to know. So I hope you'll forgive my glee now. It's not just that I'm enjoying watching Bush hang himself -- I actually see guys I could support on the Dem side. To me, it is a very good time. And lay off Jorge's posting style. He's not a total idiot and if he talked to people in a reasonable manner someone might actually start taking him seriously.
The economy is bad? That's a new one! The 'pace of the Iraqi rebuilding'??? What the hell? Thanks for proving my point about the populace being fickle. LOL. Did you think that the Army was going to throw together leggo buildings or something? Did you think that the military was going to be accepted w/ open arms? LOL. Even guys in the Bush administration said that the war would be expensive, and the occupation long term... well, those guys got fired, but that's besides the point. You still had heard the truth even from the administration, kind of. When was the last time the Democrats proposed the "American public is dumb" line? Why do you confuse my mannerisms w/ that of the party? Incidentally, it's spelled 'condescending'.
From his point of view, a think the numbers back up his assertion that Democratic power is pretty low right now. I recognized that that was nothing to do with your point, I was just trying to say that I saw his, even though it wasn't relevent to what you were saying.
