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Democratic National Convention Thread (August 25-28, 2008)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by GuerillaBlack, Aug 25, 2008.

  1. SamFisher

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    Wow - Jorge is at a loss for words tonight - his tone has changed notably to betray his angst.

    I suppose this is not a good time to ask him to take the bet.
     
  2. leroy

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    Guess that's what happens when you have selective listening skills.

    It was a fantastic speech. The McCain team is scrambling. It will almost be comedic to see how they attempt to hit back.
     
  3. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Wolf Blitzer just climaxed. I really think he's about to ask Snobama to marry him.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    Obama slugged McCain in the gut tonight.

    Wasn't expecting that.

    The hardest punch is the one you don't see coming.

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  5. Cannonball

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    Did anybody notice that it looked like Obama tied his left shoe using the "bunny ears" method? How can we elect a man who used the bunny ears? Damn liberals.
     
  6. SamFisher

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    HO HO HO

    more half-hearted angry bitterness from Jorge tonite

    ANXIETY NOTED
     
  7. Storm Surge

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    You are wrong. Bunny ears are the only way to go.
     
  8. GuerillaBlack

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    Nope! Just slapping McCain upside the head with some truth!
     
  10. gifford1967

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    Could Obama dominate tj's thoughts and emotions any more?
     
  11. GuerillaBlack

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    TJ and texxx are only posting so much because the seat filler bus they're on to Ohio is pretty boring. It's like "is this a bus of McCain supporters or are we going to an Indian casino?"
     
  13. SamFisher

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    I will wait till his next feverish, sweaty, musky blog post to confirm it, but the answer is likely no.
     
  14. ChrisBosh

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    That speech was very good, not the greatest, but very good....

    Who was the guy narrating the bio for Barak? That video was very well done as well.

    ....Obama says he's going to stop the dependence on oil from the middle east in 10 years :rolleyes: ....I'd like to know how exactly he expects to do this......realistically.
     
  15. rhester

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    I thought is was a very good speech.

    I love his personality. It is genuine and sincere.

    I think he can bring diverse groups together.

    I truly believe it is the political parties that turns me off. And we've always had them. hmmmmm

    There are so many special interest groups in both parties that expect to get theirs.

    I wish his platform was different, he seems like a man I would trust.
    (But I thought that about Bush at first???)
     
  16. Zion

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    Stopping dependence does not mean a complete stop in imports but a significant reduction.

    I really don't see what is so difficult about this. What is it that you find unrealistic?
     
  17. Deckard

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    For heaven's sake, rhester... if you were willing to trust George W. Bush, why on earth wouldn't you trust Barack Obama? Who are you going to vote for, Bob Barr or Nadir? I don't see how anyone could reward the GOP for nearly 8 years of Bush by voting for someone who vows to continue his policies. That's my opinion, anyway.
     
  18. Deuce Rings

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    I thought it was a speech full of the same liberal promises that previous candidates have made in their Nomination acceptance speeches my entire life......just delivered in a manner far superior to his predecessors and spoken to a population that for the first time in decades might be willing to listen to them. As a fiscal conservative, I find Obama's platforms extremlely left wing and dangerous to America's future as an economic power. However, I think Obama's speech tonight was outstanding and will be nearly impossible for the Republicans to top.
     
  19. Faos

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    It's getting to be a pattern...once again, no specifics.


    Analysis: Obama spares details, keeps up attacks

    Aug 28 11:26 PM US/Eastern
    By CHARLES BABINGTON
    Associated Press Writer

    DENVER (AP) - Barack Obama, whose campaign theme is "change we can believe in," promised Thursday to "spell out exactly what that change would mean."

    But instead of dwelling on specifics, he laced the crowning speech of his long campaign with the type of rhetorical flourishes that Republicans mock and the attacks on John McCain that Democrats cheer. The country saw a candidate confident in his existing campaign formula: tie McCain tightly to President Bush, and remind voters why they are unhappy with the incumbent.

    Of course, no candidate can outline every initiative in a 35-minute speech—especially one that also must inspire voters, acknowledge key friends, and toss in some autobiography for the newly-interested. And Obama did touch on nitty-gritty subjects, such as the capital gains tax and biofuel investments.

    He said he would "find ways to safely harness nuclear power," a somewhat more receptive phrase than he typically uses for that subject.

    But most of his address echoed and amplified the theme that dominated the four-day Democratic nominating convention here: George Bush.

    "John McCain has voted with George Bush 90 percent of the time," Obama said. "I'm not ready to take a 10 percent chance on change."

    Some of his comments about McCain were unusually sharp. "I've got news for you, John McCain," Obama said, defying anyone to challenge his patriotism. "We all put our country first."

    Obama's aides have long complained that he gets too little credit for including detailed proposals in his stump speeches, because listeners seem to remember only his stage presence and lofty rhetoric. Obama, who earlier had promised a "workmanlike" speech in Denver, seemed to acknowledge the problem, saying he would fill in the blanks.

    Mostly, however, he touched on major issues quickly and lightly. It's an approach that may intrigue and satisfy millions of viewers just starting to tune in to the campaign seriously. The crowd at Invesco Field cheered deliriously, but Republicans almost surely will decry the lack of specifics.

    For instance, Obama said it's time "to protect Social Security for future generations." But he didn't mention his main proposal, which is to add a new Social Security payroll tax to incomes above $250,000 a year.

    He said he would "cut taxes for 95 percent of all working families," but did not say how.

    He briefly mentioned abortion, gun rights, gay rights and other hot-button issues without delving into their sticky details. "Passions fly on immigration," Obama said, "but I don't know anyone who benefits when a mother is separated from her infant child or an employer undercuts American wages by hiring illegal workers."

    On a few topics, he was a bit more specific. "I will eliminate capital gains taxes for the small businesses and the start-ups that will create the high-wage, high-tech jobs of tomorrow," he said.

    Even if Obama had talked for three hours, of course, he could not have detailed enough proposals to quiet all his critics. But that's not the strategy.

    Allies such as Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano will doubtlessly defend his approach. A few hours before the speech, she said: "What he should not do is what he will be criticized for not doing: Give a detailed policy speech. This is not the place for that."

    She said Republicans will criticize him no matter what. They will argue that his lofty speeches lack substance and details, she said, and a detailed speech that scrimps on soaring rhetoric will prove "he has lost his gift."

    "They will try to Catch-22 his speech," Napolitano said.

    Obama seemed to say, Bring it on, we're sticking to our theme: McCain equals Bush.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D92RMQE80&show_article=1
     
  20. Faos

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    Well said, sir.
     

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