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DeMarcus Cousins traded to Pelicans

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Feb 19, 2017.

  1. fckbandwagons

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    Boogie is leaving after this season. Hard to play with two dominant bigs who needs touches and no shooters. Boogie shot 9 times tonight! If they would've won, different story, but there is a big possibility that he's thinking that he needs more touches. Great player, but not sure if he has the leadership skills
     
  2. count_dough-ku

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    He can't go anywhere til 2018. The Pelicans have a year to fill out that roster and get a real coach.
     
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    I don't understand what's going on with the Pelicans. AD is really, really good going by the measurables, and yet they stink.
     
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    There is only one basketball to play with and only one hoop to score in.
     
  5. J.R.

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    A week after Monday’s stunning trade that sent Kings All-Star center DeMarcus Cousins to New Orleans for rookie Buddy Hield, the Pelicans’ first- and second-round draft choices in 2017, along with Tyreke Evans and Langston Galloway, general manager Vlade Divac sat down with Bee columnist Ailene Voisin and elaborated on what prompted the move.

    But what finally moved you from pause to pushing the button? Was there a tipping point?

    VD: It was a lot of things, but basically, I thought it was time to start over. There was a lot of bad stuff happening here the last five years, a lot of bad habits. There were always issues, many you don’t even know about. Now I believe strongly this was the right thing to do for our future. Now I have a clear vision. This city deserves better, and I want to create that. With DeMarcus’ situation, I basically was stuck.

    What do you mean by “stuck”?

    VD: Maybe were going to win a few more games than last year but probably not make the playoffs. Then where are we? Same old place. And we have that contract to deal with. If we keep DeMarcus this summer, we have to extend him, or otherwise he would be on an expiring contract that everyone would be afraid of. Teams don’t trade a lot for a player they aren’t sure will re-sign with you. And if he extended, we couldn’t sign him for an entire year anyway.

    Then why tell ESPN two weeks ago that you were keeping Cousins and expected him to be around for a long time - which suggests a contract extension was in the works?

    VD: Because I really did not have (good offers) for DeMarcus. In all the conversations I was having with GMs, we weren’t going to get anything. People were scared because of his history. So I felt confident he was going to stay with us, and I was going to work with him, and we would do the best we can. But then I got the offer from the Pelicans a few days before the All-Star Game. That was a difference of, what, two weeks from what I had said to ESPN? Everything changed.

    Can you explain again what you meant about having a “better deal” two days before the trade? I refer to this as one of your Serbian slip-ups - something lost in translation - and included your clarification in my Sunday column. But you might want to elaborate, because that quote is out there in the ether.

    VD: When I was first talking with the Pelicans, it was about Buddy (Hield) and two first-round picks. I talked to DeMarcus’ agents (Dan Fegan and Jarinn Akana) to inform them we were having talks, negotiating terms, and they called teams and threatened them, saying that if Cousins was traded, he would not sign an extension. (Only the Kings could offer a fifth year, at a higher percentage of salary cap, because of Cousins’ designated veteran status.) They got scared and dropped it down to a second-round pick. I thought if I waited longer, I would get less. I needed to act.

    I realize that principal owner Vivek Ranadive insisted on having a star on the roster when Golden 1 Center opened, but couldn’t you have gotten back more had you traded Cousins sooner?

    VD: I think maybe, yes. It’s easy to be smart after everything. But I wanted to take time with DeMarcus, work with a new coach, put some veterans around him. And don’t get me wrong. DeMarcus did a lot of good things here. He played hard. The problem is that I wanted the team to play together. And it just wasn’t working, not for where we want to go. Did we make the playoffs in the six years with DeMarcus? No, the best year was last year. But that’s not enough. We might win a couple more games this year, but we probably still wouldn’t make the playoffs. And then I would have to pay him all that money. So, sure, a lot of fans are angry. But within the league, believe me, I got a lot of support. People are calling and telling me, ‘You did what you have to do.’

    Is it true that you approached Cousins’ agents earlier this year about encouraging him to seek anger management therapy? You would not be the first Kings official to make such a request, by the way.

    VD: Actually, that happened, and this time, they seemed more receptive. But I wasn’t sure if that was because the contract was coming up or what, so I wasn’t sure how to take it. Again, I wanted change, to start over. Acquire assets, build it right. At the same time play hard, play up-tempo, share the ball. Be a team, grow together.

    Why waive Matt Barnes? Was this because he was no longer needed to police DeMarcus? Or a response to many in your organization who wanted Barnes waived after his altercation in the New York nightclub?

    VD: Ailene, I want to build a culture, and he didn’t fit in my culture. Before we were just talking, preaching. But if we’re going to do it, you do it. The good thing about our situation now is that we have some very nice assets, a few more shooting guards, and time to take a look at Willie (Cauley-Stein), Skal (Labissiere) and Malachi (Richardson) when he gets healthy, and Georgios Papagiannis. Ty Lawson has been very good for us, and Darren (Collison) is playing well, and he will be a free agent. Kosta (Koufas) has been good. We have (Bogdan) Bogdanovic coming over next season as another asset.

    Well, the pressure is on you now. It’s pretty clear that Divac, not Ranadive, is making the personnel decisions. Some people still can’t believe Ranadive actually stepped aside and allowed you to trade his favorite player.

    VD: That’s my job, and I take responsibility. And I totally understand why some fans would be upset. They supported DeMarcus, and I like DeMarcus a lot. But I believe we are going to be in a better position in two years. I want to hear again from these same people in two years. If I’m right, great. If I’m wrong, I’ll step down. But if I go down, I’m going down my way.
     
  6. Shroopy2

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    Vlade sure doesnt mind revealing behind-the-scenes action thats USUALLY confidential. It is honest, and the reasonings acually fit what people already believe anyway. Though it can be in bad form too, airing too much "dirty laundry". Why would agents want to work with a GM who's gonna talk bad about their client and reduce their value?

    Though Cousin's agent Dan Fegan did make threats, derailing some of Vlade's progress. So maybe that left Vlade a sour taste lol
     
  7. hakeem94

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    Harden is underrated as hell he could drag a bunch of clutchfans into playoffs
     
  8. da_juice

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    What did Divac really say Bogdanovic is coming to the Kings? He's currently on the Wizards.
     
  9. sealclubber1016

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    Different Bogdanovich, Bojan is the one currently in the NBA.

    I had to look it up myself
     
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    Bogdan Bogdanović is a Serbian professional basketball player for Fenerbahçe of the Turkish Basketball Super League.

    Bojan Bogdanović is a Croatian professional basketball player for the Washington Wizards.

    *They are not related.
     
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    Are you saying that you live in a trailer park? I'm confused. But if so, it's okay, people that live in trailer parks are people and have rights too.
     
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    "We want to play hard and up tempo"
    "Bogdanovic is another ASSET coming next year"

    Rox success with just one star is making other teams re evaluate their team vision and approach towards general management.
     
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    What is it with that Bennie Anders guy and trailer parks? Every post is something about trailer trash.
     
  15. ThatBoyNick

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    His profession is being a garbage man at a trailer park, that's why he is always talking about trailer park trash.
     
  16. RiceRockets

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    Gets a tech moments into a game lol, doesn't that mean he's missing next game?
     
  17. FANfrom86toNow

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    A family lifestyle thang? I dunno
     
  18. abaker28

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    Pels get their first win since the Cousins trade. Pity he wasn't in the game due to suspension. Hmmm.
     
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    Consistent PG play has been lacking. Plus AD hasn't been a model of health over his career.
     
  20. DreamRun95

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    Its not easy playing twin towers. Davis is obviously the better defender and definitely the superior help defender. When he plays center, it just seems defensively more stable. Move him to the 4 and you don't get as much coverage by him in the middle since everyone plays a lot of stretch 4 these days. Don't envy the job that needs to be done to fix this.
     
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