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deke offered only veterans minimum

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by denniscd, Aug 3, 2007.

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  1. leebigez

    leebigez Member

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    i think they should movbe rafer to the hawks for a 2nd rd pick and move luther for something similar. offer deke 2m and jelani mccoy vets minimum
     
  2. Desert Scar

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    The vet min is 1,219,590. 1.8K is a much fairer contract for Deke. That is equivalent to the LLE. I don't think vet min contracts ended up being scaled differently for the lux tax in the final CBA, so it likely that extra 600K just costs 1.2mil, unless it is the unlikely scenario it is the difference of going just over or just under it.

    Deke is still one of the best back-up centers in the league for 12, 15 minutes.

    As for Butler, he couldn't get any PT over Elson and Oberto. (A really scary thought would be SA or Phx picking up Deke for a 1 year LLE type deal). That tells me Butler sucks pretty bad. We can hope, but don't count on him. I'd be fine given more regular season minutes to Butler in the hope he develops, but in the playoffs, Deke gives a much less severe drop off to resting Yao.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    Just like affected it in 2005- 2006, when he was awful. Odds are that 0708 looks a lot more like that than the JVG-fountain of youth from last year.
     
  4. WhoMikeJames

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    He could earn some more money through prostitution?

    Who wants to sex Mutombo?
     
  5. shivalrous

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    I agree, wholeheartedly. At this point in his career/life---money shouldn't be that much of an issue if he has a passion for the game. He's made his money---to the point that the donates millions to charity. Let's be realistic now.
     
  6. Willis25

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    only 12 guys can be on the roster - and there is 14 listed there

    my point is, it's not a dis to not want to cut a young player and pay a luxury tax just to PAY a Deke more than 1.7-1.8 M
     
  7. JoeBarelyCares

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    $1.2 million is a fair offer.
     
  8. BEXCELANT

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    It'll come down to whether or not Deke wants a chance at a ring or cares about money more.
     
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    15 can be on the roster.
     
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    Deke's well past the normal retirement age in a very physical profession and has made over 100 million dollars. I think it's less about a higher offer from another team and more about whether or not he even wants to do this anymore for what he considers a pittance.
     
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    ^ I think so too. Is that enough money to work out, travel, sweat and go through all the hassel of 82+ games + practice? To you and me yes. But he's been around for awhile and I'm sure it's all work. Would you dig a ditch for 82 days for $x.00? If $x.00 is too low, even if you are doing it with friends, then you might want to just stay home.
     
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    Does Boston even have the money to offer more than we are? They are totally capped out with 55-60 million invested in 3 players not to mention the supporting cast they currently have.
    Also, do we have a bi-annual exception to offer Deke? I love Deke.....not just for sentimental reasons--but for his game. I love his shot-blocking, physical intimidation, and that finger waving. I can't see fat Jackie Butler with his fat bloated salary giving us what Deke can give us on the floor. Adelman would love to have a guy like Deke protecting his rim.
     
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    Very sad news :(

    Les should give him enough respect.
     
  14. abundance

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    Here is a copy of the CBA from the NBA Players Association. You need 14 players just to meet the minimum.

    http://www.nbpa.com/cba_articles/article-XXIX.php#section3
    If you don't carry at least 14 player, the NBA has to pay a fine to the NBA player's association.



     
  15. amadeus

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    $1.2 million is a fair offer?


    Does Spur,mavs,or jazz has any cap space? IF Deke sign with any of them......

    That sucks. :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
  16. LCII

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    Deke should just accept the vets minimum. we're paying for what he'll do NEXT season, not what he did LAST season. With our deepened backcourt and frontcourt, I dont think Deke will get that much playing time. He should be happy he gets payed the vets min just to provide leadership and benchwarming
     
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    Sorry, the minimum roster size is league wide. I wasn't clear in the last post.

    The maximum size is 15 players. 12 active 3 inactive.

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#64
    64. What roster size limits exist? What is the Inactive List? What is Injured Reserve?

    A team must have 12 players on its active roster, although they can drop to 11 for up to two weeks at a time. They must suit up at least eight players for every game. Any remaining players must be on its Inactive List, and are ineligible to play in games. A team must have a minimum of one and a maximum of three players on its Inactive List, although they can drop to zero for up to two weeks at a time, and can temporarily have four with league approval in the event of a hardship. The composition of the Inactive List can change on a game-by-game basis -- no less than 60 minutes prior to tipoff, the team must present to the official scorer a list of the players who will be active for that game. A player can be inactive for as little as one game. While individual teams are only required to carry 13 players (12 active and one inactive), the NBA also guarantees a league-wide average of at least 14 players per team. The league is surcharged if they do not meet this obligation.
     
  18. HOUastrocketexan

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    Boston only offers Deke the veteran's minimum in the updated blog.

    http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2007/08/from_the_lakers_to_the_clipper_1.html

    Hey Jon, do you see Mutombo back with the Rockets this season?

    (It's still most likely. They have made an offer, one year, $1.83 million. Boston is interested, but has not made an offer yet. I've heard a third team is interested, but I can't imagine it will be a bidding war thing. -- Jonathan)

    (Sorry Matt, I messed up. I'll follow up in the next blog, but so far the Rockets have offered the veteran's exception, worth about $1.2 million. The person who told me otherwise was assuming the $1.83 for our discussion, which was about luxury tax. Also, the Celtics part of the answer has changed. Since I answered, they have made their offer, also the veteran's minimum. -- Jonathan)
     
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    Deke should stick with the Rockets to try steal a ring for the last time, unless he lands his butt on another powerhouse.
     
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    MUTUMBO'S KINSHASA HOSPITAL IS TRIBUTE TO MOTHER


    Washington
    September 8, 2006

    By Steve Ginsburg

    Dikembe Mutombo is convinced his mother did not have to die when she did.

    "She couldn't get to the hospital," he said softly. "And the hospital was 10 minutes away."

    The eight-time National Basketball Association (NBA) All-Star recalls with grief and bitterness the day nine years ago when civil unrest in the Democratic Republic of Congo kept his 64-year-old mother trapped at home trying to combat a stroke without medical help.

    She had been forced to turn back as she neared the hospital, and died in her living room in her husband's arms.

    "I spoke to her the day she died," said Mutombo, recalling the telephone conversation. "She said, 'I have a headache. I'm not feeling well. I'm going to take a nap.' Next thing I knew three hours later my Pop called to tell me that my Mom died."

    That day in 1997 gave the already established Dikembe Mutombo Foundation a focus for its fund-raising efforts. Mutombo decided the charity was going to build a hospital in an impoverished area outside Congo's capital city Kinshasa.

    The 300-bed Biamba Marie Mutombo Hospital will begin taking patients early next month. The 15-year NBA veteran has donated more than half of the $29-million price-tag for the hospital, named after his late mother.

    "She would be proud of me," said Mutombo, who was born in Kinshasa. "My mother always used to say, 'Help as many people as you can and God will bless you'.

    "I've always tried to do as much as I can to make a difference. I always felt God put us here for a purpose, which is to make a difference for the next generation. I guess this is my way to make a difference."



    ACADEMIC SCHOLARSHIP

    The 40-year-old four-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year planned to be a doctor when he enrolled at Georgetown University on an academic scholarship in 1987.

    Georgetown's Hall of Fame coach John Thompson noticed the 7-foot-2-inch (2.18-m), 265-pound (120-kg) Mutombo on campus and asked him to join the basketball team. With Mutombo patrolling the paint, the Hoyas reached the final eight of the NCAA Tournament twice in his three years on the team.

    Thompson is pleased with his former pupil's basketball success but truly revels in his benevolence.

    "It makes you proud," said Thompson, now an NBA analyst on television. "He could have removed himself from the problems at home as if they didn't exist. He could have enjoyed all of the creature comforts here. He didn't. It just isn't him."

    One of 10 children of Samuel and Biamba Mutombo, Dikembe has worked tirelessly to raise funds for the hospital. NBA players, the players' union, the league, and team owners have each chipped in about $500,000.

    "He had a tough life growing up," said Sacramento Kings owner Joe Maloof, who, with his brother Gavin, kicked in $250,000. "He came to the U.S. but didn't abandon his homeland.

    "When Dikembe first came to me and laid out the whole project, I was stunned. I was amazed. I was so proud of what he wanted to accomplish. I couldn't say no."

    Mutombo will earn $2.2 million this season as a member of the Houston Rockets, the sixth NBA team for the aggressive shot-blocking centre whose rangy elbows have sent many opponents to the sidelines with facial fractures.

    Before the Rockets' training camp this fall, Mutombo will be focusing on how to raise the additional $7.3 million needed for the cost of the hospital and the $2.5 million a year it will take to cover operating expenses.

    If the Maloofs can kick in money for Deke's hospital, then Les can kick money in for Deke's hospital. Now that I know the story, I think there's something that can be worked out that'll make everyone happy.
     

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