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Defund the Cops?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by B@ffled, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. Roc Paint

    Roc Paint Contributing Member

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    Could we start with defunding criminals
     
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  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Really needs to be "De-militarize the police"

    DD
     
  4. tinman

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    In a blow to those in Minneapolis seeking to reduce the number of LEO a County District Court Judge has ruled that the city isn't keeping up with the number of LEO according to the city charter.
    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2021/07/02/judge-sides-with-minneapolis-residents-who-want-more-cops
    Judge sides with Minneapolis residents who want more cops
    Court order compels Minneapolis to bring the number of police officers in compliance with minimum size required by city charter

    The City of Minneapolis has failed to maintain the required minimum staff level of the Minneapolis Police Department and must increase the number of officers, according to a court order issued Thursday. However, the order doesn’t call for the city to hire more officers.

    Hennepin County District Court Judge Jamie L. Anderson is presiding over a suit filed by eight city residents. They claim the city’s failure to maintain proper staffing levels has made the city — particularly their north Minneapolis neighborhoods — more dangerous.

    Former Minneapolis City Council member Don Samuels is one of the plaintiffs. He said police play a big role in public safety.

    “[[There are]] a lot of factors that go into keeping people safe and some of them are so important that just a little reduction here or loss there can create catastrophic results and certainly the police is one of those," Samuels said.

    Minneapolis, as well as other large U.S. cities, has seen a significant increase in violent crime since the murder of George Floyd in 2020. At the same time, the number of officers on the force has dwindled due to early retirements, resignations and officers taking extended leaves of absence.

    Anderson ordered the city to maintain the staffing level designated by a formula in the charter which corresponds with the city's population — which would be 730 officers.

    As of May 22, 2021, city of Minneapolis data shows that the sworn officers count was at 699 in addition to 67 on continuous leave, which means 78 or more hours of leave time during a pay period. The data also shows that the number of sworn officers has continued to drop this year. The city projects it will have 649 officers by January of 2022.

    Anderson's order says the city shouldn't be using 2010 census data to determine the police department staffing level. She says it needs to use the most recent census data that reflects the city's growth.

    Kennedy-Ezra Kastle, an activist with Reclaim the Block and Black Visions, says more police doesn't equal safety.

    "It's not going to fix anything because the foundation is rotten, the foundation perpetuates racism, the foundation protects guilty cops, the foundation is the issue,” he said. “And if we don't choose to make systemic change, then we can't change the city in which we live.”

    It’s not clear what immediate action the city will take in response to the judge’s order. A city spokesperson said the city attorney is reviewing the judge’s decision.

    Samuels says the ball is in the city’s court.

    “We're not sure what's the next step, but we know now that now the city is on notice that they have to take every step possible to increase this number and take no step at all to decrease, defund, reduce or dismantle the police,” he said.
     
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    Have you thanked your commerical airline pilot and pizza delivery man for their service
    today?
     
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    Whats amazing is somehow people call these kids against fascism
     
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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    When seconds count Cops are minutes away.

    I'll handle my safety my damn self.
     
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    Did you guys see this tragic story? They say road rage.

     
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    Defund the police, Like bLM, suffers from terrible marketing and for some reason everyone getting behind controversial phrasing that otherwise most humans would think makes sense.

    Talk to defund the police people on tv, they go on to explain that no they don't mean no money or police, they are talking about police getting tanks and over stepping their boundaries beyond what any community police would need and also focus more on community relations and proper policy. I'll tell ya what, if alcohol was still illegal lke weed, many folks woudl be getting in arguments with cops if they were pulled over with that.

    ITs funny the "I stand with blue" folks also weren't too happy in Wisconsin, Michigan, or the Capital when t was against them.

    Further more the blm movement too. Most people would agree these lives matter and injustices aren't good in america...hell look at fox news and even trump on derek Chauvin...they all called for his prosecctuion...o

    but once again the phrasing and a very opaque organization in blm that raised90 million but won't divulge where it goes reeks of operation wall street...another movement with some sound points who gathered the attention, once they did...no formidable policies to hold accountable.

    ITs almost as whoever came up with those names back in the 00s perhaps talked about gay rights or marriage as being pro-anal, are you pro-anal? SMh....
     
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    A admire your commitment to this narrative.

    I mean its all bullshit, but you are being a good little soldier.
     
  17. tinman

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    You know who’s the least racist group ?
    @Roc Paint

    the criminals!
    They don’t care if you are black or white or Latino or jaggy
    When they steal your catalytic converters or rob your store
    Indian or Asian or Mexican , doesn’t matter !
     
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  18. Roc Paint

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    Amen
     
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    new book out:

     

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