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Defensive Principles and Ball Movement not a part of Rockets Culture

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bj3175, Jan 7, 2022.

  1. gfab-babyboi

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    You keep being blind to all the problems Wood has just because he putting up BS double doubles ..

    Whenever he sets a solid screen and not slip it will be the first time all year
     
  2. D-rock

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    THIS is your biggest gripe about this abortion of a season???

    Setting better screens will not improve the Rockets defense. And the Rockets offense is predicated mich more on being a 3ball threat than setting screens.

    You are completely clueless, you just don't understand either the Rockets system or their philosophy.
     
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    thats why i wanted JVG...

    Imo the players would listen to an offensive minded assistant - bc that impacts their touches...

    otoh... would you want JVG coming at you for lack of defensive effort?

    it's about culture... and a team mentality...

    2 things that we are in desperate need of finding.
     
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    Wood being a turnstile -refusing to defend guards, refusing to box out, refusing to weakside block , and flat out arguing with 3-4 diff players about his defense this season …

    yeah I can talk about his defense also .. try again

    I’m clueless but you obviously are the one
     
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    So talk about his poor defense then.

    Setting hard screens has nothing to do with defense.

    And Wood's RAPTOR, DefRTG, WS, VORP, Box +/-, TS%, 3P%, etc. are still better than you know who.
     
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    I talk about his whole game, we been through this several times.. not my fault your memory is shot.
     
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  7. D-rock

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    So YOU actually remember that Wood is part of Rockets BEST defensive lineups.

    That's plural.

    Guess who is part of Rockets worst lineups.

    And that is also plural.
     
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  9. gfab-babyboi

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    And once again that means nothing, but you the only one trying to die on the Wood is a good defender platform … it’s okay ..maybe if you keep screaming it, it will come true
     
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  10. D-rock

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    I've actually never said that Wood is a good defender.

    I'm only saying he is not the worst defender.

    Look up which Rocket player gets scored on the most, I'm sure you'd be surprised.
     
  11. Stephen_A

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    No. Not coaching. Players. Starts with KPJ and Wood. Vets play and leadership trickles down. It’s about players. I only played high school ball, college intramural, and church leagues but i know enough to say its about players.

    KPJ and Wood undisciplined unfocused and hold the ball for 6 sec a piece.

    wood terrible on pick and roll D and switching.

    Overall team can’t shoot. (Tate, KMJ, Nwaba, Green, KPJ) all unreliable and inconsistent

    Too short. KMJ Tate often outmuscled by bigger longer opponents.

    Too young. 3 rookies. no real vocal leadership

    No true PG/KPJ sucks

    pretty simple why this team isn’t good.
     
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  12. Stephen_A

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    I have identified Wood as a big cancer to this team a while ago. It really starts with him and KPJ who the offense runs through and both whom are vets and supposed to lead. Both players are so erratic to me. Really tired of people citing bullshit stats. People that have eyes who have played the game and understand it should know Wood is no good. Soft, fouls a lot, selfish, no awareness on D and sometimes lazy. No secret. Proof is in his documented history of articles and scouting reports along with good ol eye test if you know what you’re looking for. No need for stats. Dude just is not the guy to run an offense through and probably better paired with multiple stars like warriors or lakers.
     
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  13. Stephen_A

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    But remember defense relies on all
    Parts all cylinders to function. Often Wood allows his man on the pick and roll to slide by him because he never jumps out hedge or hard show on a pick and roll. Instead he allows them space to dribble penetration or a pull up jumper almost every time. This shifts the D and collapses it since ballside or weakside help comes often too late or ball handler picks the scrambling defense apart passing to guys attacking from baseline short corner or shooters. Maybe he plays some zone up but he’s not a paint protector and teams are attacking him at will. This is what I see.
     
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    Wood was actually excellent in PnR with Harden.

    Should be effective with Schroder.

    Wood is actually super efficient rolling towards basket or in dunlers spot because he is so long and very good finisher.

    Wood's issues are his IQ, attitude and defense.

    Silas can actually put Wood in more complimentary defensive system, he is just unwilling or unable to do so.

     
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    That you added KPJ to players that are not good shooters just exposes your bias towards Scoot.

    KPJ has his flaws but he is a legit 3 level player. And he shoots 38% from 3P for season.

     
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    This right here is a nice nuanced take. Wood is what he is. To be effective defensively You would have to hide him on defensively switchy, mobile, and communicative teams. Have him alonsgide a draymond or defensive quarterback and he’ll likely be passable with his tools. Where he excels is finishing plays. He’s a dynamic vertical spacer with gravity to pull the big man. He was ideal for harden and Tucker/RoCo. Put him on a team like that and he’ll blossom.

    All players have their limitations up to coaching to put them in best spots to succeed.

    my feeling is with the way the team is prepared to be structured we’d be better off with a low usage defensive minded center *chet* than with what wood has to offer.
     
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    I agree, but not sure Silas does.

    No way a low usage 5 like Theis will work in Silas system.

    The 5 has to be both highly efficiency AND low usage.

    Chet fits that bill when he develops into a NBA 5.

     
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  18. Stephen_A

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    Yes “With Harden” as i said he can be serviceable surrounded by stars. So we agree on this.

    No. You are citing one stat. I’m looking at the totality of the player simply on my observations of watching him play in every game this year. And i have posted extensively on why he isn’t good at this point in time. Doesn’t mean he can’t be a good role player. Good news is i don’t think he is useless but not a starter in this league and may very well find himself to be one of those gifted journeymen in the league. The Rockets are trying to make him to be something he is not. Just my opinion take it or leave it. You are entitled to yours.
     
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    If KPJ is not a starter then Green certainly does not deserve to be a starter.

    Same for Tate.

     
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    Rockets gave up 142 points last night. Anyone found the defense yet?

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