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[Deer in the headlights] Coach Adelman During the Game

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BMoney, Jan 13, 2010.

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  1. EbolaScola

    EbolaScola Member

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    I've said this before, but my biggest complaints are too much loyalty to the starters (Ariza) and not calling a time out until the other team has gone on a substantial run and we've lost the lead.
     
  2. anchel

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    Sometimes I ask myself if you can win a championship with a coach like this. Playoffs are plagued of situations of this kind. You need a coach willing to make decisions.

    Yes, does have to do. The 3 by Brewer, you're up by 3, don't give the other team even a chance to shoot a three, make a foul. On that play of Ellington's three (the p&r with the switch Landry-Ariza), you had still 1 foul to give before FTs, but you allow a shot. Another overtime. These are 2 examples, we could talk about more situations... Ok, he can decide to not fouling at the 1st time, and at the second time maybe he ordered the foul but players didn't make it, we dont know, the point is that we never do anything, no matter the situation is, never.

    Like daernoth said, Adelman has great things that are hard to find in today's NBA, but his attitude during games is at least irritating.
     
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  3. AstroRocket

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    Rick Adelman always has had an excellent overall baskeball philosophy and offensive gamplan. Unfortunately his in-game adjustments and substitutions have always been sorely lacking, ever since his Portland days. i guess he's just not the quickest thinker.

    Ironically, he replaced a coach with us whose philosophy and offensive gameplan was lacking, but in-game adjustments were very good.
     
  4. Carl Herrera

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    Adelman is pretty damn forgiving to rookies compared to NBA coaches in general... AB, Landry, Budinger, Andersen, Scola have all been late 1st/2nd round rookies getting significant minutes on winning teams. I doubt this happens often with other coaches.

    No he's not leaving Chase Budinger out there for 30 minutes when he's just not doing well, but that's called making adjustment according to performance.

    That it happened not to be the adjustment that some favored doesn't mean it's not an adjustment.

    Friggin every teams fan complains about the coach distributing minutes cuz their favorite guy ain't playing enough. Funny how these idiots who can't see the obvious manage to make millions, eh?
     
  5. sirbaihu

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    Yeah, the Rockets would be so much better if one of us coached the team :rolleyes:
     
  6. herro

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    Adelman is fine stop this bull****
     
  7. BucMan55

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    ROFL!

    You forgot about the Rockets layup conversion percentage. I am guessing Aaron had a higher 3pt percentage than the rest of the guys shot layups. :grin:
     
  8. solid

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    Adelman is the HOF coach and we are .......fans, BUT, the longer the game goes the more he goes into "brain freeze." This is apparently a long standing issue. His substitution patterns have been a subject of discussion for decades. Larry Brown coached him into the ground last night, and he just couldn't seem to get a rotation going tonight. Glad to win anyway.
     
  9. kaocsaephan

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    These guys are so stupid. Go take a look at the standings in the West, from 1st to 10th seed. What do those teams have? They all have stars, some teams with multiple stars, and yet the Rockets are holding onto the 7th place in the West. Let's face it people: not many of us were expecting playoffs. Just because the Rockets held 5th for a short time, or whatever it was, does not mean it's realistic to ask for a finish at the 5th spot.

    Adelman is a great coach. You posting online does not change that. You're not that important :rolleyes:
     
  10. PeppermintCandy

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    You're probably right, though I don't watch enough of other teams' games to say for sure.

    But the way Adelman manages the minutes of the young players, especially rookies, is a pleasure to watch. He's put Brooks and Landry in positions to succeed from their rookie season onward, and we're seeing it happen again with Budinger/Andersen this season.
     
  11. studogg

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    it's funny how quickly we forget.

    last year the same complaints came during the season.

    Adelman uses the regular season as a development period. He needs to be able to count on his starters to fight through runs and mental lapses. He needs his plan to be etched into their minds.

    Phil Jackson employs a similar philosopy.

    When the playoffs came last year, the same moaners were praising how much the team had progressed in this aspect and it played a pivotal role in our playoff run.

    In the playoffs, Adelman also takes back the reigns to make sure we win. But he has to micromanage less because of the process employed during the regular season.
     
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  12. Carl Herrera

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    That's what it is with rookies: Adelman knows what a guy can do and cannot do, and tries to put them only in situations in which he thinks they can handle. As a result, these guys look good and people start b****ing about why Adelman don't play them enough.

    On the other hand, vets like Battier, Ariza, Yao (in years past) have to basically take on all comers, whether the situation is favorable or not because they are the guys you trust the most so you gotta play them in situations in which there simply isn't a good solution out there.
     
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    Adelman has been a great coach for a long time and has had much success with his teams. However, I don't think this should make him immune to any future scrutiny or criticism. Case and point; the loss to Phoenix last week. The starters create a huge deficit, and the bench brigade erases it and puts us up by 7 points at halftime. He comes back with the starters who created the deficit, and they blow the lead and we ultimately lose. I mean, if you're going to return with the starters in the 3rd quarter, at least start subbing the bench back in once the lead starts to dwindle away. He didn't do it.
     
  14. LCII

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    well said. Brooks, Landry, Lowry performed quite well in the playoffs last year, better than the young guns on the Blazers team. This is due to Adelman's 'learn in the regular season' coaching.
     
  15. anchel

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    Learn Reading is Fundamental.
     
  16. Ramathorn006

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    Lets see, give Rick Adelman Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen in their prime as well as Kobe and Shaq and see how many rings he would have won...better yet give freakin the "Zen Master" the 02' Kings and see if they even get to a game 7 vs. and Adelman coached Lakers team. :)
     
  17. trueroxfan

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    there are things i don't like about him such as:
    he doesn't call timeouts
    he doesn't rotate
    he allows trevor ariza to play offense

    but overall he is a legitimate coach, the person who said he was mediocre, like the 3rd post on this thread http://www.nba.com/coachfile/rick_adelman/
    that should be enough to show he is not a mediocre coach
     
  18. v3.0

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    FYI, I don't think he was talking about the real weather either...
     
  19. roslolian

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    Most of the posters here seem to only see people as either white or black. RA is a great coach, he's great at everything. If you criticize him you suck, you're just some anonymous poster on the web :rolleyes:

    Tmac is a cancer and a worthless human being, I don't care if he donates to the Haiti victims, he's earning 20 million he sucks :rolleyes:

    Guys nobody is perfect. RA is a hall of fame coach but that doesn't mean he doesn't have flaws! And one of those flaws is his substitution and in game adjustments! Only an idiot or a blind homer cannot see this, it's freaking obvious every game he takes too long to make substitutions or adjustments. People accuse of PJ of the same thing, but the difference is PJ DEVELOPS the bench. Instead of playing Kobe and Pau, maybe he gives time to Sasha and Luke Walton to develop them. On the other hand, RA plays his starters too much. The starters already had 30 mins of PT, don't guys like C-Bud, Andersen and Lowry need it more? The talent on this team is more evenly distributed than your average NBA team, the PT should be more evenly distributed as well instead of playing the Starters heavy mins every game.
     
  20. roslolian

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    How many titles did Kobe, Jordan, Pippen and Shaq win without PJ? 1. A lot of people look at the talented teams PJ has coached and say he just piggybacked but they forget that these guys didn't win a ring until they got coached by him. Jordan was known as a ballhog before PJ arrived, and Shaq couldn't bring home the bacon before he got to LA.

    Every team is talented, and although Jordan team was stacked, the Lakers 3 peat team consisted of Shaq, Kobe and just role players yet they won three straight. The Spurs had PRIME DUNCAN, PRIME Manu, PRIME Parker and quality roleplayers as well for much of this decade and they only alternate years.


    No diss at RA, but the Freakin' Zen Master is twice the coach he is.
     

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