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Decision II: Mayweather to fight or not to fight

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by coolweather, Jul 15, 2010.

  1. Ender00

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    I thought pac agree to random testing, just not the day of fight
     
  2. mikol13

    mikol13 Protector of the Realm
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    Floyd is scared. He doesn't deserve 60/40 either. Floyd is playing games and everyone knows it. You say Floyd cares about money, he won't make anymore money than he would fighting Pac. I'm sick of his antics and so is everyone else. He's a great fighter, so why not just sign the damn contract, fight and quit wasting everyones time!?
     
  3. Malcolm

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    Fight will happen either November this year or May next year. I kept saying Floyd fighting Pacquio so soon is just not smart Floyd needs one more fight before he takes on Pacquio. He needs to get in the ring with more of a brawler type to be ready for the fight. I'd actually would rather see Paquio fight Mosley.
     
  4. bladeage

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    I agree.. a Pac vs Shane fight would be great. I think Pac wins it though. Would be a hell of a war though.
     
  5. sealclubber1016

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    At this point I don't even care if they fight. Mayweather is now, and will always be a punk. He is clearly scared of Pacquiao, thats why he comes up with all of these excuses. Pacquiao offered 50-50 and drug test immediately after the fight.

    There are no other excuses, he's just scared, which is the ultimate black mark for a fighter.
     
  6. Dei

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    You're really reaching.

    Mayweather's the one volleying all these demands and you're blaming Pacquiao for not having precognitive wisdom to just eat them.

    He didn't want the 14-day cut-off to a test that's not even necessitated by the NSAC but, now that he's an elected official, he does. Simple. Let's not assume they live their lives with tick-tock accuracy.
     
  7. Tom Bombadillo

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    Mayweather has always been about the money and playing it safe, his management does a great job of picking fights and putting him in near perfect situations. Mayweather's mentality is one that I would have a hard time rooting for. I miss the old mentality of Ken, Joe, George, Muhammad, Larry, Mike, Rocky, James etc...

    In fact, I am consistently amazed that the guy has fans.

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  8. PinoyRocket

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    still ducking... :)
     
  9. Angkor Wat

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    Mayweather won't rush into fight

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5390665
    I'm not going to hate on him for wanting to spend time with his family, but damn, this sucks. Does make you wonder if he really wants the fight or not. Because you know if Pacquaio said this about the fight, folks would be talking about how he's scared and is on PEDs. One good note is that he didn't say anything was wrong with the proposed deal so it looks like it will happen, just not this year.
     
  10. rhadamanthus

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    I don't give a flying f about boxing, but mayweather is obviously being a giant b**** here. What a blatant pansy!
     
  11. Luckyazn

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    Mayweather adviser: No talks took place

    Leonard Ellerbe, one of Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s closest advisers, denied Monday that negotiations for a super fight between Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao had ever taken place.

    That is contrary to what Top Rank's Bob Arum, Pacquiao's promoter, has been saying for the past three weeks, and he's sticking by his story.

    Arum said June 30 that he had concluded talks and was waiting for a decision from the Mayweather camp on whether he wanted to fight this year. Then, Arum gave Mayweather until 3 a.m. ET Saturday to accept the terms of an agreement, or he would move on and look to make a deal for Pacquiao to either fight Antonio Margarito or have a rematch with Miguel Cotto on Nov. 13.

    There was even a clock on Top Rank's website counting down the days, hours, minutes and seconds until the deadline, a deadline Arum said was the window in which he would exclusively negotiate the Mayweather fight.

    Arum set a teleconference with boxing reporters at the deadline's expiration. On the teleconference, Arum said he had worked out the agreement with Al Haymon, Mayweather's top adviser, using Ross Greenburg, the president of HBO Sports, as a go-between without ever speaking directly to Haymon.

    Now, Ellerbe denies any of that ever happened.

    "Here are the facts," Ellerbe said in Monday's statement. "Al Haymon, [Golden Boy Promotions CEO] Richard Schaefer and myself speak to each other on a regular basis, and the truth is no negotiations have ever taken place, nor was there ever a deal agreed upon by Team Mayweather or Floyd Mayweather to fight Manny Pacquiao on Nov. 13. Either Ross Greenburg or Bob Arum is not telling the truth, but history tells us who is lying."

    Ellerbe was clearly taking a shot at Arum, who is famous for playing fast and loose with the truth after having uttered the famous quote years ago, "Yesterday I was lying; today I am telling the truth."

    When asked for his response to Ellerbe's surprising statement, Greenburg said in an e-mail to ESPN.com, "As always we have no comment."

    Arum sounded utterly perplexed when reached for comment about the statement.

    "This is like absurd unreality," Arum said when reached at his Los Angeles vacation home. "I'm not going to be party to this [expletive]. When I heard about [the statement] I thought it was a joke. Ross said he was talking to Haymon. He certainly wasn't making it up. And Haymon was relaying conversations to Ross allegedly that Floyd had with him. At least that is what Ross says."

    Throughout May and June, when the negotiations were supposedly taking place, Arum refused to speak about them. He would cite a "gag order," which he said everyone involved had agreed to. Schaefer did the same thing and would sometimes say "no comment" when called before even being asked a question because the "gag order" had become such a joke in boxing circles.

    Oscar De La Hoya, the founder and president of Golden Boy Promotions, acknowledged negotiations during an early June appearance on a talk show on Spanish-language network Univision. During his appearance, in which he spoke Spanish, De La Hoya said the deal for the fight was very close.

    When the camps negotiated the bout in December and January in anticipation of it happening in March, both sides spoke freely to the media, and their comments, they said, contributed to the fight blowing up over an inability to finalize the drug testing protocol.

    This time, both sides said, they would keep things private.

    "If there is no negotiation, who imposed the gag order," Arum said. "Why they're doing this is absurd. What is motivating them to put something like this out? I'm not going to speculate, but what are they doing? Schaefer said there was a gag order. Who could there be a gag order from if there were no negotiations? From the sky?

    "What they said was absurd, but why did they say this? They could say a lot of other things. My feeling is that this is rapidly becoming one of the most bizarre things ever."

    On Sunday, Mayweather, who was in Miami as a coach at a charity basketball game hosted by Dwyane Wade and Alonzo Mourning, told The Associated Press regarding the Pacquiao fight, "I'm not interested in rushing to do anything. I'm not really thinking about boxing right now. I'm just relaxing. I fought about 60 days ago, so I'm just enjoying myself, enjoying life, enjoying my family and enjoying my vacation."

    With Mayweather, who beat Shane Mosley on May 1, clearly not interested in fighting again this year, Arum said he will try to close a fight with Margarito or Cotto in the next 10 days or so.

    But there remains a hearty appetite from the public for Pacquiao-Mayweather, a fight between the sport's two best fighters. It's a fight that many believe will shatter all boxing revenue records.

    Top Rank streamed Saturday morning's teleconference live on its website, and spokesman Lee Samuels said more than 30,000 tuned in despite the timing. He added that Top Rank's website spiked to 50,000 hits on Saturday. Both, he said, are records for the site.

    So Ellerbe's denial of the talks and Arum's insistence that they took place add another chapter to the saga of the biggest fight in the sport, one that seems a long way from taking place.

    "The kid [Mayweather] said he doesn't want to fight. OK, good," Arum said. "But this makes everybody look crazy."

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    I dont think this fight will ever happen .... move on.
     
  12. Major Malcontent

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    I understand Mayweather's concerns. I too am undefeated as a fighter.

    Of course, I am 300 lbs and only fought with guys who were 120. Maybe a few girls in there too.

    O.k so I am 3-3 lifetime....but the point stands.

    Being undefeated against some top tier guys is nifty, and a great accomplishment, but hand picking fights you think you have a great chance to win just isn't the same as throwing yourself out there against the best in their primes.
     
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  13. noscrusir

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    Mayweather just seems scared.
     
  14. krnxsnoopy

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    I like both Mayweather and Pacqiao, but Mayweather's acting like a b****.
     
  15. PinoyRocket

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    Negotiation has been kept secret. we only saw it on news headlines with no details.

    Thus, now, it's safe to say that no negotiation take place. :grin:
     
  16. Cowboy_Bebop

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    LOL. Obviously Gayweather is ducking this fight and never want it in the first place. Can't believe the BS from the Gayweather's camp that no negotiation took place. Nice way trying to cover things up for their little Floyd when he already admitted he doesn't want the fight.
     
  17. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    It's funny that the Mayweather fans can't really say anything now. Their hero is making a mockery of his "legacy" and proving the "myth" that he's a coward that ducks fighters and waits to fight fighters past their primes is just reality.
     
  18. bladeage

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    Nobody is scared, nobody is ducking. It's just both camps are full of prima donna b****es. Crying about every ******* thing. It's a ****ing boxing match, not some b**** ass beauty pageant. I've lost a lot of respect for both fighters and both camps. I have come to realize that Arum is a d******d, who doesn't care about giving us a good fight. He just cares about money. That is why instead of trying harder to make this fight, he opts to have Manny fight ****ing margarito. And then he has the nerve to say that Tim Bradley and Paul Williams don't deserve a shot at Pac. But a cheater and a fighter who already got his ass handed to him by manny, do? This kinda **** makes our sport look like a circus full of a little fragile b****es. and yes, I'm mad.
     
  19. SwoLy-D

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    :grin: "Petty Boy Floyd" ... until he stops running around like a little girl...

    "Spend time with my family" blah blah??? :confused:
     
  20. Cowboy_Bebop

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    It's pretty obvious that both side aren't crazy about fighting one another. Both sides have a lot to lose if one of their fighter loses. I'm pretty sure Manny and Floyd want to fight but someone else is in the picture here that is keeping this fight from happening. Last time it was said to be Manny's side that the fight didn't happen and now we have it in the Mayweather's camp.
     

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