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December 7th

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Nero, Dec 7, 2010.

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  1. percicles

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    I'm going to watch The Notebook now.
     
  2. s land balla

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    57 civilians killed vs. upwards of 90,000 civilians killed.

    Seems excessive.
     
  3. CrazyDave

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    So on this day you're going to denounce something that didn't happen on this day, condemning the United States for how they later responded to a massive surprise attack on our own soil forcing us into a war we had tried very hard (too hard, some would say) not to enter?


    Personally, on this day I will salute those that fought and those that gave their lives for our country on that day and leave it at that.
     
  4. Master Baiter

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    It ended the war. Game. Set. Match.
     
  5. Xerobull

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    My Grandfather as well, every word you said. Wish I could have gotten some war stories out of it.




    As far as nuking two cities in Japan...it's been shown that they were in the brink of collapse and surrender anyway from insane amounts of bombing we laid on them. In fact, on occasion firebombing killed more people than the atomic bombs did in each city. We used the atomic bombs because we had them and Hiroshima and Nagasaki hadn't been bombed (much) yet.
     
  6. DonnyMost

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    Sorry, but in war, you don't politely ask the enemy how they would like to have their ass kicked.

    Don't start nothing, won't be nothing.
     
  7. VanityHalfBlack

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    Even thought I'm not Japanese but all Asians do look alike.. I'm really sorry white people....
    Should I stay home or is it ok for me to go out and do my business as usual.. Yall not gonna shoot me with buck shots are yah?? :(
     
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    (sp) Even though... LOL
     
  9. GRENDEL

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    Wow, this thread really took an odd turn.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    This is also my Dad's birthday.

    As for Japan, they should not have picked a fight with us, our country did what it had to do to win.

    Sometimes you have to get dirty to take the will to fight away.

    DD
     
  11. Classic

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    Do some research if you think 90,000 civilians killed was excessive. The alternative was an invasion in 1946 of the Japanese mainland. How does 2,000,000 civilian and military casualties sound?

    Ignorant.

    December 7th, 1941. A day which will live in infamy.
     
  12. s land balla

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    Hiroshima is on the Japanese mainland.

    Ignorant.
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    There was over 3 years or hard fighting between Pearl Harbor and Hiroshima. Do you think the only think Japan did to us was kill 57 civilians?
     
  14. Yonkers

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    I thought you were talking about World of Warcraft: Cataclysm being released today.
     
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  15. JuanValdez

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    Lol, invasion <> bombing.
     
  16. DonnyMost

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    Doesn't Japan NOT surrendering after the first bomb pretty much prove it wasn't excessive?

    One bomb wasn't enough to stop the war.

    So what is the alternative after that?

    Excess would be bombing them after they surrendered.
     
  17. DonnyMost

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    No kidding.

    If we invaded Japan, not only would the death toll (for both sides) have been astronomically bigger, it would have created far longer lasting changes for that country than a bomb ever could. And not good change, if you're Japanese.
     
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  18. s land balla

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    I'm not saying that. That number would be ~1,542.
     
  19. Classic

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    LOL, who said it wasn't?

    The goal in dropping the bomb was to end the war without having to invade.
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Maybe Japan should have thought of that before they attacked Pearl Harbor.

    It ended the war, it saved lives in the end, sorry that it had to happen, but I an not going to look back and p***y foot around those decisions that were made at the time.

    It is history, but it is also the last war the US won, there is something to be learned from that.....you want to win a war, you go all in....

    Japan is lucky it wasn't Tokyo.

    DD
     
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