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[Debate] Romney vs. Obama - 10/3/2012

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Cohete Rojo, Oct 3, 2012.

  1. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    Come on Donny, lol.

    Not everything that happens is calculated brilliance by Obama.
     
  2. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost not wrong
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    Dude, this is basic political strategy. What do you have to gain by giving Romney the opportunity to clean up his mess in front of a national audience in primetime? This is not brilliant, it is elementary. When I say "calculated" I mean it wasn't coincidence. It does not mean it's some kind of masterstroke.
     
  3. justtxyank

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    Just like it was strategy that he tanked the debate in national primetime to setup ads?
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    Never said, or even intimated that. You have me confused with another poster.

    (Hint: it's mcmark, and in response to his post about that, I agreed with your assertion that "losing" the debate on purpose was silly)
     
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    quoted this yesterday morning (page 13):
    the random andrewsullivan reader was spot on.
     
  6. justtxyank

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    My bad. I did get you confused.
     
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    It was me!

    But that really wasn't what I meant by being calculated. Just that I think Obama's team made a conscious effort not to be aggressive and let Romney hang himself by talking so much.
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    I know people are going to dispute this claim, because Obama had more time to speak, but I would be curious to see exactly how much each person actually said. Because Romney was talking much faster than Obama, and Obama stuttered and paused a ton. I think most people, if you polled them without showing them the clock, would say Romney dominated the mic. He just made better use of his time.
     
  9. Dave_78

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    Don't forget that he even sounded like a douche when he made the statement:

    "and I actually like you, Jim."

    jerk
     
  10. juicystream

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    Yes, I have 2. Do they watch Seasame St, Arthur, Clifford, Curious George & Dinosaur Train? Yes. Would any of those shows go away without PBS? No.

    It is freaking TV.
     
  11. juicystream

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    Because the average American is an idiot.
     
  12. juicystream

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    I disagree with you.

    I didn't ignore the point, but you ignored mine. I've actually thought it was completely funded through donations and sponsors. Still always seemed pointless.
     
  13. Deckard

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    So you don't care if they are bombarded by commercials? I certainly did when mine were of an age for those programs, and was grateful that I had a choice.
     
  14. SamFisher

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    What point did I ignore, that it's "crap"? That "money could be better spent on schools and food!" - that's a slogan, not an argument.

    The point is that public broadcasting uses a public resource to provide a public good which has produced a number of positive externalities. That's the kind of thing governments are supposed to do.

    The slackjawed knuckle dragger argument that you've put about 4 seconds worth of thought into about "food" doesn't rebut this.

    Obviously not, as you implied that it would not exist but for the publicly funded CPB - this is false.
     
  15. YallMean

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    :grin: That's what I am talking about.
     
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    The more time that passes it already looks like the big bird line is becoming the most memorable thing from the debate.

    Romney doing well in a general sense is agreed upon, but I've heard no talk about any specific thing he said that was good.

    What sticks with people is a quick one liner or phrase. In this case Romney's big bird phrase seems to have the lasting power.
     
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    Yup.
    Republican has been talking about cutting PBS for years but they always talked about artsy or nature programs that do not resonate with the "common" folks.
    Mitt made a boo-boo trying to cut Big Bird. He will be hurt for that.
     
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    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the only competent journalist left at CNN today:

    Get it, Soledad. You go girl.

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  19. Major

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    So to clarify, are you arguing that since most Americans are idiots, then any and every educational program must not be working?
     
  20. Rocketman95

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    That was great. Using his football coach example, a football coach would tell the running backs to run it down their throats, but a linebackers coach would tell them to let the other team score. Dumb.
     

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