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Debat: Chris Johnson vs Steve Slaton..HAHAHA

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  1. mjharleem22

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    Debate Series: Steve Slaton vs. Chris Johnson
    August 11, 2009
    17:59:50

    By Tim Heaney
    Edited by Bryce McRae


    Despite concerns about their durability, the Houston Texans' Steve Slaton and the Tennessee Titans' Chris Johnson ran circles around the fantasy football universe, providing some of the biggest value gains from 2008 drafts. In this pick 'em season, these two carriers often go within a few selections or dollars of each other, if not back-to-back, in most processes.

    Which second-year back has the best shot to repeat his rookie accolades? If you're staring down both of these shifty tailbacks, which do you grab?

    Steve SlatonPros


    Who will challenge Slaton in Houston's backfield?
    Last year Slaton scored in half of Houston's games and topped 100 total yards nine times - the latter happening in each of their final five contests. His 4.8 yards-per-tote average and 50 receptions (at least three in nine games) make him a point-per-reception league darling, especially since many of his one-point additions were cheap dumpoffs.
    Houston's zone-blocking scheme should continue to accentuate Slaton's one-cut-and-go quickness. Their dangerous offense, when all of its components are healthy, should have a relatively easy time marching downfield.
    Despite improving its front seven, Houston's defense still needs some work, meaning the offense should air it out often. Slaton's involvement in the passing game should continue to take up a bunch of his time and stats.
    Slaton led all running backs with 77 red zone plays last year. As the 2008 season wore on and the Texans trusted the smaller Slaton more often, Houston utilized him a combined 34 times inside the 20 over the final five contests.
    Slaton added some muscle in the offseason to gain a sturdier physical base for short-yardage (ahem, goal line) situations. It should also help the 5-foot-9, 215-pound back stay healthy.
    The Texans' AFC South opponents carry the sieve-like Indianapolis Colts run defense and the Jacksonville Jaguars' underwhelming unit; Slaton will also twice face a Tennessee Titans squad that was recently neutered of defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth.
    Cons

    Slaton is more agile than fast. His new bulkier frame may cause him to lose a fraction of his quickness. This won't guarantee a decline in performance, but it may slightly alter his style of play and the upfield product of his cuts.
    Slaton averaged fewer than four yards per carry seven times last year.
    The O-line overachieved a bit last year; they're not a physically talented group, and it's uncertain whether they can maintain their in-game recognition and ability to utilize the system.
    Though it could be looked at as a positive in keeping Slaton fresh, the Texans are trying to find a consistent complement back in a group that includes Chris Brown, Ryan Moats and Arian Foster. This isn't an attractive group in terms of fantasy accolades, but their presence alone signals Houston may decrease Slaton's touches.
    How would the offense survive if Houston's potent but frequently injured quarterback Matt Schaub succumbs to another injury?
    Chris JohnsonPros

    In this era of backfield splits, it's comforting to know that Johnson's workload will at minimum be shared with the husky LenDale White. You know what you're getting in this run-happy offense.
    Johnson, holder of the fastest official 40-yard dash time, has a clear edge on Slaton in raw speed. Tennessee reportedly may take more advantage of this by lining Johnson up in the slot on passing plays to increase his touches.
    The timeshare couldn't stop Johnson from running off 1,228 yards (along with 260 receiving) in his rookie campaign. He makes the most of his touches. Like Slaton, Johnson contributes amply in the receptions column, having caught at least two passes in each of his games last year; he also had at least three catches in nine contests.
    "Every Coach's Dream" will run behind and around one of the league's premier front quintets.
    He worked with a personal trainer in the offseason in order to better maintain his weight. Johnson trimmed down from 200 pounds to 194 during his rookie campaign and believed he lost some strength as a result; he's making an attempt to stay at the same weight for the entire season.
    Despite his concerns over playing strength, Johnson maintained a 4.9 yards-per-carry average in each half-season.
    Johnson will have the same luxury as Slaton when it comes to schedule; Houston's run D is much worse than Tennessee's.
    Cons


    Johnson's 100-yard games last year came against some weak opponents
    Johnson's four 100-yard rushing games last year came against the Cincinnati Bengals, Kansas City Chiefs, Detroit Lions and Cleveland Browns - not too much resistance there.
    It's tough to say Johnson will receive much more than the 39 red zone utilizations he was tabbed for in '08. In fact, White was tied for the league lead with 21 touches inside the 5.
    Will Tennessee's defense allow the Titans to control the clock as often as they did last year? Tennessee may be forced to throw a bit more to catch up.
    Are opposing defenses going to respect quarterback Kerry Collins or "future Hall of Famer" Vince Young? Most teams will go into Titans games anticipating a heavy dose of ground work.
    If the Titans can successfully implement the passing game, they might use newly signed deep threat Nate Washington more often to take some big-play schemes out of Johnson's fantasy hands.
    The verdictBoth of these runners command first-round picks, with Slaton and Johnson nearly averaging the same pick number in standard performance; Johnson usually goes several picks sooner in PPR. This year Slaton probably has more fantasy value to lose than Johnson because Houston may try to employ a second back more frequently. Johnson is at minimum lined up for a similar time share with White behind a much better group of hogs.

    On the other hand, Slaton has the environmental advantage; we favor Houston's multifaceted offense. Tennessee's ball movement has a longer way to go to become more dynamic.

    Winner: We give a slight edge to Slaton because of his more frequent action in the red zone, which probably won't take a big hit. You can't put too much stock into one of Slaton's slew of backups swiping many goal line touches. If you have to "settle" for Johnson, though, you shouldn't cry about it.

    wow, hey tenn fan reporting here what a joke this comparison is now...
     
  2. crose

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    I am pretty sure you should be able to find reports saying that Tennessee would be good this year, as well.......what a joke that is, too!
     
  3. wallyj12

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    what a joke your team is now....
     
  4. Naija Texan

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    Slaton has hit a sophomore slump but at least his teeth don't look like cheap fake yellow gold.

    Seriously, I can't tell when they show his teeth on a HD tv if those are bad gold teeth or he just took horrible care of his teeth most of his life. If its the later, it would explain his success beside having speed his breath probably stuns guys on the defense when they don't tackle him around the waste.
     
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    Oh, I forgot to add this...

    What's a "Debat" and "HAHAHHAHAHA" for your team being so horrible now...
     
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    Chris Johnson's team is 1-6.

    Steve Slaton's team is 5-3 and beat Chris Johnson's team.

    So, what was that again?
     
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  7. rikesh316

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    Chris Johnson is better than Steve Slaton. However, I much rather have Slaton in the 3rd round than Chris Johnson in the 1st round. They used their first round pick on Duane Brown who will be here the next 10 years.
     
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    hey titans fan.....how many tds do each of the players have?

    it's not that big of a joke doucher. 14 ppg v 11.3 ppg for fantasy purposes after slaton's worst game of the year and after johnson's best game of the year.
     
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    can't even post a link.
     
  10. juicystream

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    It isn't Chris Johnson's fault, and it isn't because of Steve Slaton. Chris Johnson has been amazing all year.
     
  11. DieHard Rocket

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    Why are they even being compared? Johnson was a first round pick. He's expected to be better than Slaton.

    I don't blame them though. Titan fans have to find something positive out of this season. "Hey, at least our 1st round pick RB is better than Houston's 3rd rounder this season."
     
  12. Oski2005

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    It was a valid in August when the article was written. Just like it was valid to think the Titans wouldn't suck balls like dirty prostitutes.
     
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    Hindsight is 20/20.
     
  14. leroy

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    I agree, but it's kind of stupid to come in here talking s*** when your team is doing so horribly.
     
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    fantacrap.
     
  16. LonghornFan

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    Seriously? What a r****ded thread.
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    Slaton has a better winning record.
     
  18. Mac#5

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    i got a better article

    Andre johnson vs. all the titans recievers

    I think we all know whos better
     
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