Batman Jim, if you read my post, i didnt question if you were a good rockets fan. Theres no need to freak out about that. I just said that you havent been watching rockets games over the past couple of years. The thing about JVG is he loses us games on a DAILY occasion. Denver was the third straight game where we blew a lead. We have blown bigger lead though this season, including those of 20 or greater. Very few coaches, if any, blow leads the way we do. Also, these good coaches make come backs. We havent made one significant comeback all season. Once we start trailing, the game is as good as over. SA, DAL, and PHX all made comebacks against us, including a real big one by SA. I belive the rockets are like 0-11 or soemthing when trailing entering the 4th quarter. You dont even know what you are saying, you just filled that entire post with calling me stupid and dumb and an idiot. Say something constructive read my post or something. Try to stick to the rockets if you could.
And yet, we made it to 11 games over until recently without the best center in the league. Further proof of how good of a coach he really is.
Or how good Tmac and the players are...maybe with another coach they would be 15 games over .500, or maybe under .500....you just never know. Results are all that matters.....and overall the Rockets are doing....OK...not great...but OK. DD
Batman Jones. You're getting PWNED in your own thread. You've made yourself look like a ***king idiot. love, Robin.
Yep, tough day for Batman. One guy pointed out that he doesn't like it when I call people idiots (even though he agreed with my argument otherwise), one guy pointed out that we've lost three games in a row and one guy pointed out that Van Gundy loses games DAILY and called me Batman Jim. Since I'm in PA and can't watch every game, I didn't know that Van Gundy had lost games every day. See, I thought The Rockets were 9 games over .500 with no Yao, no Snyder and Tracey and Bonzi struggling to return from injuries. Obviously I was wrong. Apparently JVG has been losing games every day, which I guess would include games we didn't even play. My bad. The idiots are obviously right. The Rockets suck. Blow em up and start all over. We'll obviously never have an 82 win season with this coach -- he doesn't even know V-Span's an all-star!!! The idiots have spoken. Fire Gundy.
Don't worry Batman its NOT you! When JVG does a good job I liken the envionment to that of our country and its politics.....the apathy between people in this country over the IRAQ war is similar imo.....all of these people who supported it and crapped on those against it only to find out they were wrong and will never admit it....they choose instead to hold it against those who were right. BRING THE TROOPS HOME AND GIVE JVG AN EXTENSION! And hell who knows maybe he can clean up that mess over in IRAQ and G.W. can take some ribbing as the rockets coach for a while.....I have a feeling he would get props regardless of his results......so relax Batman.....JVG isn't perfect but he doesn't lie to your face....he may not win coach of the year and if he doesn't lets take comfort that he won't manufacture the evidence for himself but will own up to reality, tell the truth, and take the consequences like a MAN.....instead of like CD's puppet. Sorry its a MEET the Press morning and JVG is in the hot seat and as of now THANK GOd for no term limits in the NBA. GO JVG, you've earned some of our votes....keep up the good work while the militia gets well for the second half of the war.
SJC - Last I'll say on the subject - but, in that case in particular, it was hardly knee-jerk, more of a consistent thing done to every poster who disagrees with him on Van Gundy. Hence, the boiled over frustration. I disagree with your premise of it being a fan's right to call Van Gundy himself an idiot - question the decisions, not the man. But in the same light, BJ's initial post didn't attack anyone personally (no names were even implied)- more an open letter. I'd consider it one in the same with calling Van Gundy an idiot from the stands or the couch. I'm just confused why you're calling a thread out now for it, when it's been going on basically all season. Maybe I see it as personal to me because I see logic and rationale behind virtually everything Van Gundy does. I don't necessarily agree with everything, but see reason behind it. By proxy, calling Van Gundy an idiot makes me an idiot. Maybe I'm just fortunate; I have a coach that makes sense to me, and a GM to be with a philosophy I like, too. The wins are great, and the losses suck. On the other hand, maybe I should join the Fire Gundies; you can call yourself a Rockets fan and enjoy the wins, and then relish in the Fire Gundiness in the losses.
When i say daily i mean on a consistent basis, you know that Jim. Kind of the way you have been completely owned in this thread and must resort to cheap tactics like calling people stalkers and idiots.
We aren't doing great cuz of injuries. It has gotten to a point where you make no sense. Sounds like blah, blah, blah to me.
Boy, is my finger not on the pulse. I had no idea I'd been completely owned. I thought maybe I'd exposed the loudest gasbags on the site to represent the vast minority of posters here. I came to that idea by the fact that I called the guys that post the most and the loudest in the GARM as idiots and getting a 4 star (once in a while 5 star) rating with tons of kudos in return -- and with only three people complaining (one of which agreed with the basic argument) about it. Shows what I know. I actually thought the thread was pretty well received. I would also say to you again that I just fundamentally disagree with the notion that one of the top records in the league, one that is 9 games over .500, can be held by a coach that loses on a "consistent basis." I even kind of think you have to be an idiot to think that. But, you know, I just got "owned" and all, so I can't really say.
No, you are wrong, and the facts don't agree with you. JVG has a winning record as a Rockets coach which means it is impossible that he loses them on a daily basis especially since they don't play daily. You are correct that we blew some leads, but JVG wasn't on the floor missing shots, and not working the ball into Tracy or making bad decisions. JVG may share some of the blame, but even if that is true it still doesn't outweigh the good that has been done by his defense. You are welcome to your opinion, but to say that he loses us games on a DAILY basis is pure fantasy.
I don't base my thoughts nor opinions on what others think or see....I call em as I see em...and don't care one iota if it is a popular opinion. So, if you are happy you got a 4 star rating by whining about the whiners...good for you. If you are happy the team is 9 games over .500 good for you. I have higher standards ! Would you want to write a play and settle for "off broadway"? DD
And lets not also forget that Jackson is pretty much an average coach when you subtract Jordan, Pippen, Shaq and Kobe from those teams he coached. But hey, you never know. He could have one with them. Or another coach could of also. I just kinda think that without the players, coaches usually, kinda, in a way dont win. So, lets just keep things focused, people. What I like the most is the BBS schitzo, bipolar thinking. When we are on a roll, JVG is a GOOD coach who is basically just holding his penis while the players do all the work. And when the team loses, he obviously is not holding his penis anymore because he is coaching us to that loss. JVG, give up. Houston will never love you. You are a New Yorker. Come back home, baby. Come back home.
I'm not especially happy about it. I just pointed it out as an example of the upisdownism that generally prevails around here. Thirty or forty people say they agree, three don't = I got "owned." JVG wins nine games more than he loses = he loses games "DAILY." It's silly. It's good for every Rockets fan. And hell yes I'm happy about it. It's too bad you aren't. Yes. I get it. 82-0 or bust. If a coach loses three games in a row, no matter who the opponent, no matter how many of his players are injured or how important they are to the team, he sucks and should be fired. Those are hell of high standards. I'm surprised you made it through the last 10 seasons if this one's bumming you out. I get your point, but it's a bad analogy if only due to the fact that off-Broadway plays are better and cooler than on Broadway ones 99 times out of 100. But I get your point and I agree with it. I won't be satisfied with anything less than a championship. The thing is, we've improved so much and so rapidly this year wrt defense, offense, team play and smart play, I can see that as a possibility for the first time in a long, long time. The vast majority of people that follow NBA basketball feel that way, fans and not, which is why The Rockets are showing up 3rd and 4th in all the rankings and why I find it so baffling you're on a crusade to get rid of the guy that brought us to this point.
That is just downright bullsh!t. And this is NOT up for debate. This is NOT up for debate because you are fu ck ing talking about me, and you are wrong about me. Anyone on the freaking board who knows my writing knows I do not argue with coaches. I want to be a scout. not a coach. I want to explain plays that happened. Not argue which play should have happened. I want to try to figure out why a coach plays the lineups they play and why they work or not, not try to explain why freaking VSpan should get minutes like you DaDakota. This is not up for debate. I do not bash coaches, specifically and never the coach of the team I like. You might see me do a critical analysis of why Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan, and Larry Brown can be beaten when idiots like you are using those coaching legends to bash Rudy T or JVG. your arguments are petty to me. Especially your VSpan argument. would you just shut up about VSpan! jeeze. you idiot lol! <ul> <li>You are the wanna be coach. And your arguments are those of a politician trying to get us to vote for you. <li>I am a wanna be scout. And I like to draw up what happened on the court, so we are actually discussing what happened, not a rewriting of history that you need to have happened to get elected. <li>And we are both fans. </ul> Cheers dude. Just don't ever say I fu ck ing bash coaches again. You went over the fu ck ing line there with me. I am correct when I say I don't bash coaches. Not you. Don't try to tell me who I am!
Fair enough. By the way, I just saw Altar Boys, it was an amazing "off broadway" production. I loved it. DD
Ok I went back and did some research on your posts and I have to admit that I was wrong about you criticizing coaches. My apologies. DD
When i say we blow leads on a consistent basis i am obviously exxagerating. We blow a ton of leads, and often. If you cant figure that out you are pathetic and i shouldnt waste my time arguing with you.
