I'm sure other teams would love to be in that situation. that's like saying yeah, I'm sure being 7 ft and having a 40 in vertical leap will never ever not get me in the nba. nothing's a sure thing, but it for damn sure doesn't hurt.
first of all, i find that number hard to believe; that would represent nearly half their available cap and i know they were less than $10M under the cap last year - like, $5-6M; they cleared another $30-35M this offseason? regardless, what does cap space guarantee, anyway? did you know minnesota, arizona and cleveland ranked 2nd, 3rd and 4th last year in available cap space... and all 3 are drafting the top 10 this year. besides, who's going to spend it? reese is gone; you need a new GM. what, exactly, have i misforecast? cap space, vis-a-vis the importance of having the #1 pick; not cap space in general.
Never said any different. The last couple of posts about it just made it sound like having that cap space automatically equals success. It doesn't.
http://www.titanscentral.net/ this is from a titans message board article written on 12/31. I knew that number before I found this source. I realize its not the best source. its been widely reported since about the second half of the season specifically by John McClain. the titans have ten million more than the top team on that list did last season, cleveland. and cleveland didn't finish anywhere near as well the titans. minnesota was third on that list at $24MM. they finished one game better than the titans, granted, but its still a huge difference. not to mention the titans have 11 draft picks. they are in great position to build.
whatever; i'm not going to wade through a titan board to find info i couldn't care less about. if it's $41M, it's $41M... fine. additionally, don't ever send me to a titan page again that tries to pretend they have any ties to earl campbell. AIDS should be given to whoever designed that graphic and/or runsthat web site - no, scratch that: a new hybrid disease of AIDS/cancer. cool; i heard david givens is available - oh wait, never mind... do you realize their 10 picks last year accounted for 19 totals starts? on a 4-12 team. and 13 of those were by vy. as a contrast, the texans' 7 rookies started 61 games; the saints' 8 rookies started 41 games; the jets' 10 rookies started 45 games. so, yeah, if last year is any indication, both free agents and draft picks should make a HUGE difference there in tennessee....
lol vince young is rookie of the year, ric "yeah but blah blah blah" the titans have $41M, ric "i don't believe that, oh its right, yeah but blah blah blah" the titans have 11 pics "yeah but, blah blah" and you're right, draft picks didn't make any difference with the titans, except the one who won rookie of the year. you're right, they're a terrible organization, as opposed to the texans who must be better even though they're not because their rookies actually played. is that your argument?
an undeserving rookie of the year, yes. but when people like richard justice and peter king are among the electoral.... no; my point is that 11 draft picks translates to absolutely nothing on paper. it's nice, yes, very nice (if true), but if this year's crop contributes as much as last year's crop... how does that translate to the team being better? and i'm certainly not arguing that the titans' organization is terrible; nor am i claiming superiority with the texans' organization. i've always respected fisher; i'm flat-out getting a deion-like vibe from pacman jones and yes, vy does look as if he'll be able to translate his talent to the next level. that's a scary team moving forward. but i think they overachieved this year and will will "regress" next year (which is to say, play closer to where the numbers suggested they should have wound up this year). no, my point is that a lot of free agents get hurt; don't pan out; etc. iow, FA, like draft picks, is a guarantee of exactly nothing, regardless of the amount you have to spend; it still has to be used wisely and productively before we can begin counting on it. but yes, $41M and 11 picks is certainly discouraging (for texan fans).
VY was far and away the rookie of the year. There is hardly a legitimate debate unless one focuses on a singular statistical aspect (QB rating or completions that don't factor in the threat of his legs). No rookie came close to making the same impact.
Well worth repeating. Now I don't have to say anything else... you said it all. Like you, I went to the Oliers games when they started (with my Dad), and have countless memories that only another fan could appreciate. That team is gone, and I've found it difficult "to get into" the Texans. I think passing on Vince Young was one of the more incredible acts of stupidity in Houston sports history. Time will tell if that's true or not. Having watched the Oilers all those years, I think I'm a pretty good judge of those "acts of stupidity," lol!
I agree. A quite compelling statistical argument can be made for Jones-Drew, and VY's stats on paper can look quite pedestrian. But, if one actually watched the games, there is no debate. Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
i like this - if we just throw out the stats, he was the clear winner! well, sparky, i have some bad news for you - it's an individual award; if you're going to throw them out, what CAN we use? i'm guessing wins - more on that in a sec; first, let's address your contention that it was no debate and that no rookie made a similiar impact. as a qb, vy generated 172 yards of offense, barely completed 50% of his passes, finished with the 30th best qb rating in football, and while he scored an impressive 20 TDs, he also turned the ball over 16 times; more than 1 a game. he had 3 games as a starter in which he completed fewer than 10 passes; and 3 games in which he generated less than 135 yards of total offense, including one in which he finished with less than 100. who was better than that? well, maurice jones-drew made 1 start - one - and rushed for 950 yards, averaging nearly 6 yards a carry; tacked on another 650 receiving yards; averaged nearly 30 yards per 30+ kick returns and scored 16 TDs. and once again, he made one start, splitting time with a 1,200-yard back and yet he still generated 140 yards of total offense and one TD on 15 touches per game. plus, he fumbled once all year. additionally, addai averaged 90 yards a game w/o making a start and scored 8 TDs; maroney averaged 110 yards a game (including kick returns) and scored 7 TDs; and colston generated 70/1,038/14.8/8 in only 12 starts. and while i probably wouldn't have voted any of this trio ahead of vy, they certainly had huge impacts on three playoff teams and had comparable impacts to vy. and i didn't even mention bush, who wound up averaging 95 yards a game (including punt returns); led his team in receptions and scored 9 TDs. and while i know you're champing at the bit to throw 8-3 at me, consider this: in three of those wins, tennessee's defense/special teams either matched or outscored vy and the offense, including jacksonville, in which the offense didn't score a single TD. toss in a 60-yard FG he had nothing to do with not to mention tennessee's good fortune of witnessing a team coughing up a 21-point 4Q lead, and 8-3 doesn't look that impressive when applied singularly to vy. jones-drew was the most deserving rookie of the year; and on this point, i'll agree with you - it wasn't even close.
I predict Ric will post heartily and with gusto on this subject till he overreaches, is exposed then disappear, then reappear in a few months in his one-man mission to rid the BBS of anybody who happens to not hate Vince Young, in the guise of being rational. BTW what's hilarious is that earlier in the thread ol' Ric is telling us how Tennessee was a fluke last year, and how they'll be lucky to win six games - but when it comes time to explaining how they won this year he makes their defense out to be the steel curtain and their running game to be like the 83 redskins. Not surprising, Vince Young has a way of making him talk crazy talk that makes no logical sense. What a player.
Dear Mr. McNair, Hello again... I miss you, sir. Do you remember the night we spent together in Acapulco? We stayed up talking about everything that night. When you looked into my eyes it felt like you had found my soul and were gently massaging the years of pain away. I thought I would never trust another man again, but you won my heart. As I fell asleep on your chest I thought this was as safe as I would ever be... When I awoke to find that you had left I was heart broken, but I knew it was for the best. I miss you so much it hurts. I wonder what you are doing right now... Do you miss me? Don't answer that. I've written this letter so many times, but I have never had the courage to send it. Maybe I don't need to send it. I just wanted to thank you for bringing the light and color to my life that I had missed. Even if it was for that one night, that one fleeting moment in time, I will never forget it...I will never forget you. Thank you... Sincerely, Todd ps - Draft Brady Quinn.
I feel the exact same way, and theres many others that do too. It's a weird situation, some people just don't see it yet.
This, without a shadow of a doubt, is the single greatest post I have ever seen on any message board ever.
Are the Titans in a position to take advantage of those fortunate circumstances with the other QB? It changes everything, but still, based on their record with the old guy, I'm guessing not.
Yeh and Rex Grossman should be Offensive player of the year. Some of you need to look at things more objectively and let your manlove for Vince quit clouding your judgement.
