Then stop saying bull**** such as VY can't throw. I'm not going to let that crap slide. And excuse me, but this forum also involves the Astros, whom I do support, so I'll happily come here as I please.
I'm 23 first of all. Second of all, yes it's quite logical to have a favorite player/s regardless of age. Why don't you try understanding football instead because somebody who says Vince Young can't throw clearly doesn't know what they are talking about.
I didn't say Jones was the smartest cookie around, I just was showing the praise by titan teammates on Vince. And I don't see that test affecting Vince's on field performance either.
Why don't you quit being a big man loving baby. Vince Young sucks and his fans are dip****s. 23 years is way to old for a man crush. Your parents must be ashamed. Vince Young would never be a Vince Young only fan. If he wasn't a pro player he would never want a Houston team to lose. So go home, get under your covers and pray to your Vince Young poster that you can became a real man and a real Houston fan.
Not so much as last year's Heisman voting. Talk about not seeing the forest from the trees in no small part do to a non-stop media blitz. Ric if you watched the Titans much it was so obvious VY's was the most crucial individual in their turnaround. Their TOs went way down, their TDs went up, their 3rd down conversions went way, way up. Further, Pacman was there all season. Henry missed one game pre-VY (though they still had Chris Brown then) and one game after. Further by the end of the season the Titans had far less overall weapons, either all 3 of their best WRs or 2 the three out (Givens, Troupe, sometimes Bennett), and Chris Brown (who had been a 1000 yard rusher and was going to be a co-lead RB with Henry). This is not to discount Pacman play some great games and is an outstanding CB/PR, or that Henry is a excellent RB, and they have a few other good players (Bullock, Hope and Vanden Bosh). This is not to discount the coaching staff putting together better game plans around the pieces they had. But Tenn went from far and away the worst team in the NFL to a respectable team with 1 major player change--everybody in the Titans org to around the league knows which individual player made the most difference.
You need to step away and stop being a big ugly troll. VY is a rep for Houston and Texas, has only positive things to say about the City, the Rockets and means more to it (City) than you do, or ever will. Get over yourself on this one.
i dont know about all the name calling, but on afternoonblitz on sirius when they were 0-5, bullock said he told fisher that we might as well get him more reps so he could be ready next year and keep my thing going. If Volek would have been helping vince understand the offense, he would have still been in tennessee, but he didn't and i can understand why you wouldn't want to help a guy take your job when its your 1st shot. Voleck knew the deal and went and told someone about the situation and got traded. Collins is what he is and he was ijn a tough situation chillin at home now he has to learn the playbook. He sucked bags while doing it and if i were texans, i would bring him back for a couple yrs so vince always have a sounding board. Which really brings me to Collins. Thats who david carr reminds me of. A guy with all the tools and lack of leadership. If the perfect storm is around you can win and go to the sb with these qb's, but the teams doesn't really rally and run through walls for this qb. If the running game is strong, line blks,defense is god then this guy can when games, but when everything isn't there, he struggles. To me thats Davis carr,Kerry Collins and Trent dilfer. 2 of which went to a sb, one won.
Ric - to be clear, is today a day when you are arguing that intangibles DON'T exist or is it a day when you are arguing they DO exist? You should really preface all your posts on this subject with that from now on so we can be clear. TIA.
Yeah, the titans go from the worst team in football to vince, and go 8-5 with him as a starting qb, and you want to argue he was not the key reason, give me a break. Of course henry ran well, pac man played well, as a did bullock and van de bosch. But where was this the first 3 weeks when they were the worst team in football next to Oakland? Intangibles do exist, that is what separates great players from average and good ones. I'm not saying it's all him, but listen to his teammates and to a man they tell you he gave them/the team the confidence they could beat anyone in the league. Stats wise Vince won't be impressive, but he makes plays to win games. Like in Houston, and the run before the half in Buffalo, the near sack vs the giants, etc. Of course other parts played well, you can't go 8-8 in the league otherwise. But I will argue it was him installing the confidence they could play with and beat anyone in the league, then backing that up on the field through his play that made the whole team play better.
people from china and other parts of the world support the Rockets. Why is that? why can't the Texans get universal appeal like the Rockets? when I went to the Texans game, there were TONS of VY jerseys. I've heard Vince is in the top 10 in jersey sales too. I'm guessing Vince is building a fan base beyond the 'Titans' city. fans worldwide recognize Heart and Talent. That's why they like Tmac and Yao. and Vince Young.
im glad you are reading my posts again. hahaha you are right. People from China love Yao cause he's a great player from China. People from Houston love Vince Young cause he's a great player from Houston. boom ya!
to reduce the amount of confusion sam's seemingly random post is likely to generate, he's (i think) referencing a post i made six years ago, is that right, sam? maybe five? about chris simms. now, here's the best part: at the time, i actually argued that intangibles are what made simms better than his numbers suggested... yeah, i know. and, apparently, learning from your mistakes and evolving your opinion over a significant period of time is... well, sam's way of saying he can't intellectually discuss vy, so he has to resort to cheap, flaccid attempts at trying to knock me by digging those six-year old posts up and thrusting them back into the conversation to hide his own inadequacies even though they don't actually hold any relevance. hope that clears everything up...
and now you believe a player is nothing more than his numbers?? that he has no more value than what can be quantified on a stat sheet? is that right?
Who is doing that? You have a bizarre obsession. Don't know why, but there it is. According to you, someone can't live in Austin without being a UT fan, or having some sort of hidden agenda, if he/she is a fan of Vince Young, and/or thought the Texans made a huge mistake by not drafting him. It's freakin' weird.
