unfortunately the army propoganda sure makes it seem prettier than the wars. Its like join and army of one, go travel, learn, do this that, all this great stuff, never says get shot in the head by 30 terrorists...
You will notice. . Jenna and Barbara ain't joining the military anytime soon Easy to send someone ELSE's boys and girls somewhere to die than your own. H*ll even bush himself was 'protected' from any real skirmishes You Voluntarily went to work today . . .. does that mean it is ok for your boss to set the building on fire and play nero? Rocket River
Only if you're a fireman. that is their job. What do armies do? I mean they have guns and bombs and kill people for a living. I assume thats what this kid was doing. Maybe he already killed a few bad guys....as if its any worse when it happens to "our kids". War is bad.
You seriously think it is okay for a senior fire official to set stuff on fire cause he's in charge of the fireman?
HAHA yeah right, sorry. I mean to fight fires in the workplace. This is their job, this is ordinary. Join the Army? Carry a gun? Fight a war? Kill people? Get killed? Are you suprised? What do you guys want? Be for real. War is bad.
I could be wrong, but I think the argument is that even though it is the firefighters job to fight fires, if one dies fighting a fire started by the fire chief, well, it would be fair for that person's mother to blame the fire chief, don't you think?
No, I couldn't disagree more. A firefighter knows the risks and takes them. Don't you agree? I mean it certainly aint no cake walk, firefighting! We put ourselves where we are. Sometimes by choice sometimes not. Ain't life crazy?!?!?!?! One of my favorite Zepplin songs, "Nobodies fault....but miiiine"
Recruitment for the Armed Forces is falling far below expectations, because nobody wants to sign up to fight in a stupid war, and come back with missing limbs.
Hang on... I want young Americans to join the military. I hope they do an outstanding job selling young Americans on a career in the Service, whether it's for college tuition and the like, or for a 20 year career, with life as a "double-dipper" after. Why? Because I want it to be a choice. I am dead set against a draft, totally against it, and I want my 13 year old son to not have to face that possibility, unless he wants to be in our military. These men and women are professionals. They deserve more in the way of pay and benefits and housing for their families. They deserve the very best of medical care when they are retired veterans. Today, they don't get those things in anything approaching the level they deserve. Fire their incompetent Commander in Chief... don't fire our professional military.
Wow, so following your line of thinking, when I'm out driving later today and someone runs a stop sign and runs into and seriously injures me, it's my fault cause I took that risk driving? What if I'm a delivery person for a living? Would that make it ok?
I never said fire anyone. The thing is that the way they show the army is that it is a wonderful experiance, it is 4 years of peace, no problems, just do some general ROTC and you got yourself a full ride thru school. I mean they could atleast do some advertising about how it is a choice of life and death, and that you could lose parts of your body etc etc.... I say the armymen deserve tax breaks and stuff like that no doubt, in fact we barely give respect to them, 100 dollar rebates on a new car for military service isnt enough, but the false propoganda needs to stop.
That is a bad comparison. We all NEED transportation in some form or another, ie... car, bike, bus, even walking. Yeah sure, someone must take the blame and probably should. There are rules for driving and sharing the road. Unfortunately there are no rules in war, there are no rules in controling a massive fire in a house or building. These jobs are risky as hell which by the way, trying to save and help other people is an extreeemely admirable job BUT.... the choice is still theirs. Is it a necessity? why do people do it? I dunno, but I won't.
I see Adeel's point. Some of the recruitment ads make military service seem to be all about getting training and a good deal at school. Not quite sure how effective the ads would be if they said "Hey...free education...but ya' just might die" However... Recruits should know that the reason the country spends so much money on them (even if it doesn't reach their pocket) is because of the tremendous responsibility they agree to take on. Don't want people duped into joining for the benefits without realizing what they're taking on.
You can't seriously believe this BS, can you? Which country confirmed that Iraq would have nuclear weapons by Christmas? Which country confirmed that Iraq was invloved in 911? I eagarly await more of your selective-memory-maligned posts.
There is plenty of "false propaganda" coming from the White House. What our military is doing to promote recruitment is just good advertising. If you want to complain about something, complain about the near impossibility the military is going to have filling the Reserve/National Guard after the Iraq debacle. Now that's a serious issue. People who volunteer for the military know they aren't going in to just play with guns and make things go, "Boom!!" Seriously. Those in the Reserve/National Guard never dreamed that they would be sent to a country like Iraq, indefinitely, for some President's voluntary war. Up until Iraq, I would be willing to bet that the Reserve/Guard didn't have problems of signifiance filling their requirements. After seeing the tours the Reserve/Guard are being sent on today, getting people to join and stay in is going to be damned hard. Just another chunk of fallout from Bush's optional war on Iraq.
isn't it assumed that you if you join the military...you might enter combat experiences?? geez...do we really have to tell people that?
back in what the middle ages. Nowadays armies are just a 4 year training program to get you a scholarship to college. You dont have to tell people taht, but you can expect the outrage when a son, mother, father, daugter is killed.
I believe there have been a few wars fought since the middle ages and, correct me if I'm wrong, the millitary has been used to fight virtually all of them. I'm with Max. I really don't think the fact that if you join the millitary you may have to fight in a war is that big of a deep dark secret.
