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DD's Rocket talk, Draft extravaganza ! (video)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. DCHAMP

    DCHAMP Member

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    good job DD once again you dont dissapoint...However i disagree with you about kmart because i think minny wants hill and budinger but you never know
     
  2. CJLarson

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    You are REALLY overrating C-Bud my friend! Lots of guys with his athleticism can look good off of dribble drive to the hole. But I'm talking about CREATING off the dribble. You can't put C-Bud in iso like you can with Martin, or Brooks. And best passing skills?! Wow.....just...wow.....
     
  3. leebigez

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    Which is the worse place to b in the nba
     
  4. CJLarson

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    Apparently I missed that.
     
  5. Prince

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    LOL, I like your style.
     
  6. matac3

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    great vids, DD.
    Keep them coming
     
  7. thething

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    I think a veteran like Kevin Martin does not have enough value to a team like Minnesota. They are looking to rebuild with young guys, and Kevin Martin is 27. By the time Minnesota is contending, Martin will be too old. I think they would rather get a younger guy like Budinger or Hill. They are not in win-now mode. Our best trade chip would be the 2012 NY draft pick. Rubio won't get dealt. I think the NY pick, Budinger, and #14 might be enough for #4. It's a steep price. Most likely I see us standing pat or trading down to get more assets.
     
  8. DaGreatest

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    I think ur love for Chase is blinding u to undervalue and underappreciate Martin.. sure Buds good young prospect with a high ceiling but the 2 guard spot is a scoring position and my question is whether he can generate 20-25 points every nite like Kevin.. Im thinkin he probably couldnt cuz his plays is run off screens and never where u give him the ball and say 'get us some points'.. im not sayin he cant, but I havent seen him off the dribble much its usually catch and shoot, Im not sure we should gamble that he can create his own shot cuz if he cant its a Carl Lewis "uh-oh" moment.. Martin isnt the best one on one but hes better at it than Bud
     
  9. T FOR 3!!!

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    I'm not really buying the whole kmart trade.... kevin is a win now player and he locks up that sg as a nice position for us, and when dm traded landry for martin, he stressed how hard it is to find a player of martin's level at the wing. You do this trade and you put the rockets in the same whole we were in last year when dm just came out and said he was going to get us some scoring help on the wing. This trade shouldnt happen...
     
  10. leebigez

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    Martin will give you that except in the 4th qt then he shrinks. I don't think chase will ever be a 20-25ppg scorer, but i think he can be 17ppg 6rebs 5 asst type of guy. When martin isn't scoring, he brings zero to the table plus he's injury prone guy. The kings couldn't wait to get his 12m off the books.
     
  11. DaGreatest

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    i agree with that assessment but thinkin a player can do domethin is more based off potential and we all know that doesnt always pan out.. ppl thought Eric Dampier had the potential to be dominant comin outa college but we see how that turned out.. dont get me wrong, I hope Bud becomes that and more though
     
  12. dobro1229

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    Thanks for the Update DD. I agree that it is a fresh idea, I just hope that every 15 year old on here doesnt start posting their own every other day.

    Regarding the Draft/trade idea... I find it really hard that Morey coveted and finally landed Kevin Martin for so long in order to just give him up for essentially two unproven rookies. But it is a fresh idea that I had not considered because I assumed Martin is as close to untouchable of a player as we have.

    That being said I do believe that the Rockets are expirementing with plenty of possiblities to get Cousins and if History repeats itself, we are in good hands with Morey and shouldnt have to give up Martin to get him.
     
  13. brian_chapman

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    I didnt watch the video, but looks like you advocate trading Martin. Hate to break it to you, I think Budinger is the first to go and could happen in 2 days to Golden State for Beidrins or Morrow.Thats my guess.
     
  14. C-Mo

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    Agree 100% with you. Kevin Martin is a nice player but he isn't a guy that the Rox should build around. Pairing Martin and Brooks together means you have a poor defensive backcourt and you wont get any rebounding from either of those guys as well. If the Rockets trade Martin to get a stud big man in the draft, then so be it. A skilled big man is much more difficult to acquire than a 2 guard who can only influence the game on one side of the court.
     
  15. Yetti

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    DD Very professional as usual!! Only one contention - wasn't it you who just told us why the Rockets can't trade Kevin Martin as he was especially brought in to play with Yao and still needs the opportunity to do so & show us just what hes made of? :p
     
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    Ray could not cut it against the Lakers.
     
  17. Yetti

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    I agree, Battier may have to be improved upon!
    By the way don't you think that Martin's abilities will only shine when he gets passes from Yao rather than AB? :p
     
  18. glimmertwins

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    Ya, I agree with this, Martin just doesn't make sense for Minni. For goodness sakes, they drafted 3 PGs in the first round last year! Does it look like they are the type of team who could value Martin like Houston does? Kahn has shown repeatedly he doesn't have a good handle of how guys play together on a basketball team. He said he thought Rubio and Flynn could start together. You just can't trust that type of GM to overvalue someone like Martin who's game is a lot more subtle to the average person.

    ...however I could see Kahn overvaluing guys like Jordan Hill and to a lesser extent Cbudd. Houston would be silly not to consider moving them, #14, and NY's future picks for the #4 or the rights to Rubio(doubt we would get both). The only problem with Rubio is from what I read, his deal he signed last summer doesn't give him the option of a somewhat reasonable buyout like his previous contract so he is likely staying in Europe for another year.

    I also think it's worth noting that that future NY pick is probably worth more now than it will be once FA starts shaping the team NY will likely have. I say regardless of what Houston does(move up or move down), they try to launder that pick into something that's more of a sure thing in the future.

    Ultimately I still think the odds are high we move out of the draft. It would be nice to grab Cousins, but the teams at the top of the draft boards are all pretty desperately in need of a homerun swing and I can't see them selling their fan base on exchanging a top lotto pick for a collection of good role players or mid-lotto picks to get role players that the Rockets have to offer. As far the Rockets sending one of their better players, Scola won't have much value on a rebuilding team and Martin probably won't either but I think it won't be a surprise if Aaron Brooks gets traded to get to the #4 pick. I love Brooks, but his skill set is fairly limited and somewhat easier to replace. I could see Houston trading Brooks and Hill and the #14 to get Cousins and Flynn.
     
  19. BasketballReasons

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    Gives this man a 5 star for the effort and creativity at least!

    Good job DD. I've also heard from sources, that "they told Kevin Martin not to unpack his bags"...

    Though I doubt KM for 4+Rubio would be enough for Minny, especially since Kahn said he didn't like his contract.
     
  20. Ramathorn006

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    Nice vid DD. Though I didnt agree with of your points.

    Chase as a starter? ehhh lets see if his defense improved in the offseason then we can talk.
     

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