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DC Rebooting Entire Comic Universe (again)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by emjohn, Jun 1, 2011.

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  1. Ender120

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    Does this mean Bruce Wayne is alive again?
     
  2. BigBenito

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    Does this mean his parents are alive again for a few pages? :confused:
     
  3. what

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    Rai? (nah, bloodshot) first chrome foil cover.

    Interesting to me is that the only comics I were ever into were the valiant comics, I loved the Unity series, Solar, X-O Man of War.

    I heard valiant is making a comeback. i hope they do. Valiant comics were the bomb.
     
  4. professorjay

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    Tried out Justice League one. Interesting to see Jim Lee art again. It was ok, I'll check out the next few as well as some of the other big titles.
     
  5. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Dragonball (Z) went more than 500 chapters, Naruto is over 500 chapters, Bleach is over 450 chapters, One Piece is over 600 chapters and I believe is still going. Your premise that the Japanese manga industry is based on having a great story with a satisfying end is false. Hell, at least 2 of those series have something like a reboot in them (they use a time skip, but the effect is similar, hell DC used a timeskip for one of their reboots).

    Beside the fact that the Japanese manga industry clearly follows the American model in many of their top sellers, your suggesting flies in the face of the economics of comic books. The top selling books are always the big crossover events, followed by the big long running heroes; so why on Earth-2 would they have limited runs of (for example) Superman, to make way for a new hero that is not going to sell nearly as well.

    The top ten selling comic books from July 2011 (the most recent month 4 seconds of googling found for me) were:
    1. Amazing Spider-Man #666 (Marvel)
    2. Captain America #31 (Marvel)
    3. Fear Itself #4 (Marvel)
    4. Flashpoint #3 (DC)
    5. Green Lantern #67 (DC)
    6. Daredevil #1 (Marvel)
    7. Batman: The Dark Knight #3 (DC)
    8. Avengers #15 (Marvel)
    9. War of the Green Lanterns: Aftermath #1 (DC)
    10. Green Lantern Corps #61 (DC)

    That is two crossovers (Flashpoint and Fear Itself) and the rest are based around heroes among whom the most recent to debut was Daredevil (first appearance in 1964).
     
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  6. Dr of Dunk

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    I'm actually buying older comics in auctions and through general purchase. I always loved the "cosmic entities" like Galactus but never could afford to buy comics as a kid. I must have some pent-up comic anger because I've been on a rampage lately. It's weird when you see a cover and say "damn, I remember that cover from when I was a kid".

    Now I need to eventually hunt down an Olajuwon rookie...
     
  7. AirBud#10

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    Yeah i was trying to buy one on ebay but they want like $500. :(
     
  8. Dr of Dunk

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    What was it? A couple of copies of Action Comics #1 sold recently for $1-$2 million a pop. I remember telling my mom to buy those back in the 80's. She thought I was nuts. I could've sworn the were under $20,000 back then, but I could be way off.
     
  9. G Zus Kryst

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    anyone know of a comic store in Houston cause I have a bunch of XMen comics and need to get kaesh for new turntables.
     
  10. Dr of Dunk

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    Only 2 I remember from Houston by name are Third Planet and Nan's. Both not too far from each other on 59 around Kirby and S. Shepherd. That's where they were when I lived in Houston over a decade ago anyway. They had been around forever.
     
  11. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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  12. DaDakota

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    I have some old mint condition number 1s...I still have Wolverine number 1, and Marvel presents Wolverine number 1, as well as the first 5 issues of John Carter Warlord of Mars, and several other number 1s...that probably have little value.

    I hope the John Carter movie knocks it out of the park...

    DD
     
  13. wizkid83

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    DBZ is still ends. Inu Yasha ends. Death note ends. Naruto will end at some point too, likely soon. Tell me at what point would we not have Superman... in any DC storyline? Same with Batmen and etc. It sucks when some comic ends when a lot more could be done (SlamDunk NEEDS a sequel) with the characters but at least you don't have to wait for it to jump the Shark (Runaways and Ultimate Spiderman were two really good series that got stale after the initial arcs finished and just became a villain of the month storyline).

    I also think American comic need to stop changing authors ever few arcs, because that ruins the continuity and character development.
     
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    I think last year. I would start a series and run out after 4 issues
    then it jumps 9 issues. . . or something
    it got annoying

    Rocket River
     
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    Which ones do you have???
     
  16. StupidMoniker

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    In theory Superman and Batman could end too. I don't think the manga model that was being talked about was 500+ issues on a book. Only a few American comics are past that level, because they come out less often. Action comics is in the 800 range I think, but it has been going for what, 80 years or so? Wonder Woman is pretty iconic, but I think they just passed 600 issues a year or two back. Spider-man is under 700, and that is the flagship title for Marvel, going strong since the 60s. This fantasy manga model is non-existent. Some manga are short runs that are all mapped out in advance and have satisfying endings. Some manga are behemoths that meander and have time skips and go on for several hundred issues. The same thing happens in America. There are the really long ongoings mentioned above, but there are also shorter runs like Neil Gaiman's Sandman which ran for 75 issues or Alan Moore's Watchmen that ran for 12 issues. Neither are the American comics model or the Japanese manga model, they are just short and long.

    DC and Marvel are also shared universe companies, so ending Superman the book would mean what? Would there still be Action Comics? Would Superman still appear in other DCU properties like Justice League of America? Usually a series gets cancelled when it doesn't sell. The character may pop up quite a bit in other books, or the character may fade into obscurity only to possibly be brought back into the limelight later, or the character may get killed off (only to possibly be brought back into the limelight later). Sometimes when a series ends it has a satisfying ending, sometimes not. Regardless, the publishers are going to do whatever they think will be the most successful. Getting rid of their top sellers is not likely to be the way they go.
     
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    No, no, the Akeem rookie.
     
  18. nickb492

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    Have been happy so far with some of the 52. Currently keeping up with Batman, Detectives Comics Batman, Stormwatch, and the Justice League. Pretty decent titles. Tried Grifter, DC Universe Presents and the other two versions of Batman but hated both Batman and Robin and Batman Dark Knight. In Batman in Robin I checked out when you find out Robin is Batman's kid. What the hell? Along with Penguin which is a limited series is making me actually like DC. Marvel needs to step up but with Punisher coming out strong along with Carnage USA, and Avengers X setting it up for X-men vs. The Avengers I'm expecting gold.
     
  19. Dairy Ashford

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    Yes, but no one in Kenya or Iceland is and that's how they make $200 million in the first month every freaking time.
     
  20. Dei

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    Storytelling in manga is slower. In American comics, arcs finish in, what, 8 issues and those are already long. Manga arcs run for 20+ issues.

    This is really what fuels the American comics industry.

    Arcs in American comics normally end with the hero back to the status quo.
     

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