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David Thorpe on the Rockets Draftees

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jun 29, 2012.

  1. meh

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    Then he either is the most brilliant basketball mind in the history of the NBA, or Adelman is too stupid to coach in the NBA. Because in the history of the NBA, teams always perform MUCH worse when players hate the HC.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    Of course McHale deserves criticism, he made mistakes and I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise, but the level of criticism is where people are disagreeing. People want to blame McHale for us choking, but then ignore how it would logically follow that McHale was the reason we even had a chance. Plain and simple, people believe what they want.

    You say you never liked the hiring from the beginning and now you're all too willing to allow your bias to agree with yourself.

    What I got out of it was the McHale's resume is quite a bit more polished than Lowry's and that Lowry's should learn his place, that he's the player.
     
  3. dmoneybangbang

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    Half? Really? I will gladly concede that to you if you can list them for me because I seriously don't know it was that many.
     
  4. jtr

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    We collapsed because in the frantic scheduled of a shortened season our back court became exhausted. No Martin. Lowry was injured. Dragic and Lee just wore out.
     
  5. dmoneybangbang

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    Doesn't anyone else see the hypocrisy in blasting McHale for his "lack of player friendliness" over a player like Kevin Martin considering how often he would have been traded by the many arm chair GMs on here?

    We don't like Martin because he plays no defense then some of you complain when he isn't be "treated properly" or whatever. Sigh.
     
  6. dmoneybangbang

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    Yes that was my point. I was trying to convey how illogical it was to blame McHale for our season's ills of our collapse.
     
  7. PeppermintCandy

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    IIRC Yao, McGrady and Alston also grumbled when Adelman first took over from JVG and started to change things. But most of that was when the team was losing and disappeared once the team started winning again.

    It's natural for players to bristle at changes when they've completely bought into the previous system. But once the team is winning again, those gripes pretty much go away.

    Unfortunately for McHale, this roster isn't built for winning. Not yet, at least.
     
  8. Wapzoe

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    Give McHale a full season before passing judgment. In a week Morris gets to prove his potential (hopefully as a SF), if he performs well and still doesn't get ahead of rookie Jones then it is time to call for McHales head.. Both player and coach deserve a proper run before judging though
     
  9. jtr

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    And you think anyone here has the expertise to second guess McHale and his coaching staff. Megalomania. They picked Parsons out of a crowd and how did that go?
     
  10. ObamaFan

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    Adelman had the T-Wolves on the verge on the playoffs, and at one point this year were in the 8th seed with about 6 weeks to go in the season. If Rubio is healthy the Wolves would play the Spurs in the 1st round
     
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    This. I think everyone likes the fact that McHale rewards hard work and effort, but his in game coaching is awful. Also, for everyone who wants to bring JVG back I would be down with that IF he brings an offensive coordinator.
     
  12. Sooty

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    So was it Rick Adelman or Ricky Rubio? ;)
     
  13. meh

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    That's my point. If Adelman was an awesome HC, and players loved him, then McHale is the greatest coach in NBA history, because he can get the same .500 record Adelman got here with all his players hating on him. Because no coach in the history of the NBA can coach his team to a similar level of a great HC despite players turning on him.
     
  14. ObamaFan

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    Ugh more like Kevin Love and Rubio

    but i doubt McHale could have coached a better job this year than Adelman(with all things considered)
     
  15. ObamaFan

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    Hahah so you are not giving credit to Adelman for coaching up guys like Scola, and Lowry

    Adelman took over a team that was terrible the previous year( borderline pathetic, and at one in 2010 lost 19 straight games)

    What Adelman did this year was FAR more impressive than what Mchale did. Adelman had a nice lexus( and McHale is still driving it). Adelman had a 95 honda civic, and turned it into a Ferrari( while it was healthy)
     
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    Thorpe is wrong that the Rockets didn't run any single-double or pin-downs for Martin. They did. Martin was just terrible at it as he can't dribble or pass, making it an one option play, which is way too easy to stop. That's why we stopped running it after a while.

    Thorpe is right that McHale's offense is pretty simplistic and PG heavy and you could criticize McHale for not knowing Martin's game well enough and running the plays mentioned above in the first place, but saying that McHale didn't run any of these plays and Lamb thus is doomed to fail is just flat out wrong.
     
  17. meh

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    So basically, you're saying Adelman tanked the Rockets job in his last year, and decided to coach seriously this season with the Wolves? No wonder the Rockets let him go. He's a quitter.
     

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