I tried watching, but I couldnt get into the game. I have seen better games at Fonde or at other local parks. Good luck to them gals. Quote: Originally posted by Playercentral ...If anyone has went to a Comets game you will know what I am talking about.... has went? We be having the spelling\english police her today.....
CometsCrazy, So, you are a woman, correct?? I remember you saying in another thread over a week ago, that you dressed up in drag. Never in a million years did I think you meant dressing in drag as a man. Or maybe dressing in drag still means dressing as a woman, but you cleaned up??
You coach Moochie Norris??? Wow, that's pretty cool. Although I must say that you still have a lot of things to teach him (passing, defense, etc.).
Actually you're right. I shouldn't care what happens to the WNBA because I don't like it. It is a business, and if it doesn't have any customers (obvious current financial struggles) it will shutdown. The thing that pisses me off is when women say their game is different than the mens yet they want equal salary. If your game is different a la inferior, why should you receive the same pay as men who have worked decades to achieve their current bargaining position? That question has already been answered by Stern, 10 days or no league. Good luck.
I believe the NBA has a rule that says you can't be drafted until your high school class graduates. No one has ever challenged it. LeBron was supposed to be the first.
I'm pretty sure this is a relatively new rule and even that rule has been changed to allow 17 year old Darko what's his name to enter the draft.
You claimed there was no rule preventing the Rockets from drafting a 12 year old. I merely pointed out that there was such a rule. It is age discrimination, but that has been shown to be legal (booze, cigarettes, driving, voting, serving in the armed forces, even working full time). The point is, it has nothing to do with women competing in the NBA.
There has been no rule until recently. The NBA is over 50 years old you know and women (and 12 year olds) have been around in that time. To equate age limits for drinking, smoking, and driving with age limits on NBA players is pretty weak considering sports like tennis and figure skating have young teens competing all the time. The point is that women, like 12 year olds, are at an inherent physical disadvantage in their ability to compete on an NBA level. For you to pretend otherwise and sit there talking about the NBA being co-ed is amazing. You have a history of talking about rules without recognizing the discriminatory construct within which those rules operate and this is really just more of the same.
Are you saying that there are no women or 12 yos who could compete physically with a John Stockton or Jeff Hornacek? That is lunacy. You have a history of seeing discrimination where there is actually honest competition, and honest competition where there is in fact institutionalized discrimination.
Isn't that one of the main reasons why they don't get paid as much. They have inherent differences (disadvantage definitely isn't the PC word to use) that make their game less exciting to 75% of the sports loving population. Less exciting equates to less revenues in every sense. Less revenue equates to significantly less salary. Argument in this thread aside (where obvious prejudices have been highlighted), the NBA's position seems to be one of financial stability. All that said, $30,000+ for four months of work is still very decent.
Compare that to four months of work in overseas women's leagues. Is the WNBA competitive? If yes, the women have no point.
Only you and your Tom DeLay starter kit buddies would call a stacked deck honest competition and unfortunately it's become your modus operandi. If you knew *anything* about women's basketball you'd know that the size of the average point guard in the WNBA is probably about 5'8" or so. Only about 5 inches shorter than John Stockton, by the way nice one saying that it's lunacy that a woman can't compete with an NBA Hall of Famer. Nice double dipping though, women can compete with John Stockton and NBA teams would draft them if they could but gee there are no women in the NBA even though it's a "co-ed" league. That flows really well there. You obviously revel in your cluelessness.
Women deserve a chance to succeed in sports. Without a pro league, it's more difficult to motivate kids to strive for their best. I think some of you guys are too harsh on the WNBA. I do hope that they succeed, even though I myself is not very much into it. That said, I think simply relying on the dream of going pro to motivate kids to play sports has its own pitfalls. Even with the men's game, what is the percentage of kids who think they have a shot at making it to the pro actually make it? I don't have the statistics. But I bet it's extremely low (less than 1%?). What happens to those who think they'll make it but don't? Some of them probably go on to other professions. But I believe many of them simply drift off to a lowly productive life. And, I don't think the problem with the WNBA is primarily a matter of "discrimination." It's more a matter of consumerism. You get what people are willing to pay for your product. Right now, the women's basketball product is just a lot less appealling than the men's. Hell, I think it's real discriminiation when a professor with a PhD makes 100 times less than a guy who can just put a ball through a hoop. Just my .02.
The women don't get paid as much because they don't have the TV deals or the ticket prices/attendance. It's a business and they have to draw people in to make money, obvious stuff. The WNBA labor union is screwing the league as far as I'm concerned and they've done it before with their expansion demands. The WNBA doesn't have the kind of highlight reel material that the NBA does however if you look at the leagues statistically they're similar. Where the problem comes in is what we've seen in this thread, chauvinists going out of their way to bash the league based on the looks of the women or the ignorant comments on the quality of play. I often hear people say they tuned into a WNBA game one time and it sucked so they didn't tune in again. I suppose if a person tuned into one NBA game that happened to be New York vs Denver then they wouldn't tune in again either. As a fan of both leagues I can tell you there isn't much difference in the leagues outside of the above the rim game in the NBA. The Cavs vs the Heat is just as excruciating as the Rockers vs the Sol and the Comets vs the Sparks is just as fun as the Lakers vs the Kings.
