Just imagine what he would look like here. With our opponents sitting back waiting for the pass and no legit running game to take the heat off the pass.
It's too bad the Texans beat the Dolphins. Another season of "can we go 0-16" threads would be a lot more entertaining than another season of "Trade Carr" threads...
The Titans have more talent at the RB position (remember what they did against Indy?) and thus less pressure on VY to force the issue. Plus, I believe their defense is stouter than ours is. Leading a team to a win is great...but let's not discount the 174 yards of rushing Travis Henry got. Look, I'm not a DC apologist. I just think that he's the one player on our so-called team that is actually worth a damn. Even Dunta Robinson (can't cover anyone to save his life) and AJ (dropped passes are his forte) aren't particularly bright spots this year.
ROFL, how predictable. David Carr has his first bad game of the season and a 4-page Trade Carr thread has already shown up. Posters on this BBS are more fickle than a firefly in a full moon.
Carr is not the issue. Issues: 1) no running game 2) no pass/run blocking 3) Defense- secondary sux, with exception of #23 4) Defense - No pass rush
i don't get why is everyone is bashing carr already after one bad game. while u r at bashing qbs, u should bash matt hasselback for 2 of his bad games this season against arizona and the bears and byron leftwich against the colts this season. this is the nfl, nobody is perfect every week. there's going to be some good games and bad games. i'm not a carr lover or carr basher but i look at things on both sides. imo, carr is going to bounce back. right now, i'm sad about the texans, very sad. But, i'm more sad about my fellow fans who are sounding like new york city fans or something. One bad game by Carr and people calling for his head on a silver platter. Thats what makes me sick to my stomach more than texans losing b/c people just don't take time to evaluate it. i knew the texans were going to suck and i bet it's going be worse before it gets better. This team has a lot of holes to fill. The previous regime just screwed up the whole franchise and kubiak and company is going to clean it up. i believe kubiak has the ability to fix things but its going to take a few years unfortunately. I know the former oilers fans are tired of losing but this is a new regime, new systems, and everything.
Of course not. It just funny how a thread like this didn't appear until his first bad game of the season. Do you think Carr has been better this year than he has his first 4 years?
no. i think he was at his best in the first half of his 3rd season. i think he's been better than he was last year. but i don't buy into passer ratings.
The only way I trade Carr is if he wants to be traded. He's played his butt off got his butt kicked for 4.5 years... This season is a wash and more than likely next year is too. So he will be entering his 7th year in the league before he even has a competive team. Thats alot to ask for somebody of his talent. So if he wants to be gone I think we kind of owe him that so he can savage his carreer somewhere else.... But just football wise trading Carr makes no sense at all to me. I can't even fathom what the offense would look like w/o him or Andre.
and u so called texans fans got to remember there's a such thing as a SALARY CAP. if the texans did trade carr, the texans will eat some good amt of dead cap money for trading carr. the first thing you think about when u r trading in the NFL is whats the f'n CAP RAMIFICATIONS. So pretty much, Carr is stuck here for better or for worse.
Well, if you don't base improvement on stats, I don't know what else to say. What DO you base it on? Strictly wins? If so, should we get rid of AJ too? We're 10-38 since drafting him.
also moulds, DRob, Demeco, Mario. Lets get rid of them as well while we are at b/c we suck with them. i don't what to say anymore.
you can't look solely at stats. i'm not saying they don't help. but there are other things to study too. it's why scouts actually go out to watch guys play instead of just looking at the paper the next morning.
Vince Young will play in a Super Bowl Before David Carr takes the Texans to the playoffs. (pretty stupid assessment, but it sounded good )
Do you have something to offer about what you've seen in Carr? How reads defenses, or his posture in the pocket, his timing, throws on target, etc? Do his receivers have to work twice as hard to catch his passes? All I've heard from people is "he's not a leader", which is pretty ridiculous for someone who's not in the locker room to say (no frame of reference). Stats *aren't* everything (I think everyone knows where I stand on that!). So, what objective things have you observed about this QB that make you think he'll never turn the corner?
Yes, I do. I think in 4.5 years, you get a pretty good idea. Stats have told that story for most of his career, msn...so if you want to start there, take out the first half of his 3rd season and take a look. Not real good. He was really good during that first half stretch in 2004. He looked like he was making progress. I don't see it anymore. I don't like that he looks like he quits. I hate that, in fact. It's why Kubiak busted his ass about that recently, too. i think a tornado is close...i'll post more later...bye.
