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David Cameron: Britain's EU Referendum to be held June 23

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  1. AroundTheWorld

    AroundTheWorld Insufferable 98er
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    This has to be one of the funniest/weirdest things I have seen in a while. This is not made up; it's directly from the live feed.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">David Cameron: &quot;Thank you very much........................doo, doo, doo, doo. Right...Good.&quot; (The End) <a href="https://t.co/Z1zHgSlkLf">pic.twitter.com/Z1zHgSlkLf</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Sandford (@BBCDanielS) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCDanielS/status/752526624722194433">July 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That jaunty humming. If nothing else you've got to be impressed by Cameron's utter refusal to give a solitary **** about anything, ever.</p>&mdash; Jack Cutforth (@jack_cutforth) <a href="https://twitter.com/jack_cutforth/status/752526752459685888">July 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  2. MojoMan

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    Theresa May is now the Prime Minister of the UK.

    Several cabinet appointments have been made. A couple of eyebrow raisers so far: Boris Johnson is the new Foreign Secretary (think Secretary of State here in the US) and current Chancellor (Secretary of the Treasury) George Osborne has been sacked, which was not expected.

     
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    David Davis named Brexit Minister in Theresa May's new Cabinet

    British Prime Minister Theresa May has appointed David Davis, a former junior foreign minister and strong Brexit advocate, to lead the country's negotiations for exiting the European Union, her office said in a statement on Wednesday.

    Davis, a senior Conservative lawmaker who was beaten by former prime minister David Cameron in the party's 2005 leadership election contest, was appointed to the newly-created role of Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union.

    He will take on the crucial role of securing Britain's economic security whilst unpicking over four decades of trade, legal and diplomatic ties to the EU.

    At the heart of the job will be finding an answer to the key negotiating question: how can Britain keep access to the EU's single market whilst winning the right to restrict free movement of workers from within the EU?

    "Once the European nations realise that we are not going to budge on control of our borders, they will want to talk, in their own interest," he said on Monday in an article for Conservative grassroots website Conservative Home.

    Davis also said Britain should take its time before triggering the formal Article 50 exit process, but could be ready to do so by the start of 2017.

    "The negotiating strategy has to be properly designed, and there is some serious consultation to be done first," he said. "This whole process should be completed to allow triggering of Article 50 before or by the beginning of next year."
     
  4. MojoMan

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    EU Commission President Jean Claude Junker, perhaps the most acerbic voice in the EU government against the UK's decision to exit the EU, is now admitting that the economic consequences are only short term and within a couple of years the international ramifications will be over with.

    So it appears that the Armageddon/wailing and gashing of teeth phase of this exercise may be drawing to a close now three weeks after the referendum. Too bad most people will quickly forget the fear-mongering and the blatant fear-based manipulation tactics that Junker and the rest of the "Remainers" used during this campaign.
     
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  5. pirc1

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    If the consequences are just temporary, then why have EU at all.
     
  6. MojoMan

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    Why should individual countries like the UK be in the EU at all, you mean.

    Ten years from now, the people of the UK will very likely look back on this decision as a no-brainer and there will be broad agreement that the UK is better off out of the EU. If that turns out to be the case, then for the UK there is no good reason for them to continue to belong to the EU.

    Perhaps the circumstances of other members of the EU are such that for them it makes more sense for their to continue to be an EU and for those countries to be a member of it. Or then again, maybe not. There is already a lot of discussion about this subject in many of the individual countries of the EU in the aftermath of this referendum.
     
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    Honestly, as long as the UK finds a way to stay in the single market, things really won't change much. They never used the Euro so they weren't part of the monetary union to begin with and the strings tied to joining the single market will largely preserve key elements of EU membership (like freedom of movement and EU budget contributions).

    The Leave campaign will claim a win when Article 50 is invoked but they'll have won a hollow victory if the UK stays in the single market which I suspect will happen.
     
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  9. AroundTheWorld

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    She actually made Boris foreign secretary. What a joke.
     
  10. MojoMan

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    The UK is not staying in the single market. Prime Minister May has already stated that it is a top priority is to limit immigration into the UK, while Angela Merkel and various top EU officials have stated that if the UK wants to be a member of the single market, they will not be permitted to cherry-pick which parts they want to adhere to.


    Theresa May will stop migrant crisis: New PM vows she will end free movement from EU
    Theresa May will make a strict new limit on immigration her top demand in her push for an EU exit deal, the Daily Express has learned.


    Angela Merkel: no special favours for UK over single market

    German chancellor rejects Boris Johnson’s proposal to give Britain access to single market with limited immigration


    So, there will have to be a new trade agreement between the UK and the EU, unless the EU stands down, which I do not expect that they will do on the free movement issue. The UK will not be a member of the single market after they exit the EU.
     
  11. Mathloom

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    Cameron couldn't wait to rejoin his cronies at this time when he's turned the country's assets into a buffet for his friends. What a piece of **** that guy is.
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    Cameron is a much greater politician and human being than the dictators you worked for, Mathloom.
     
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    Right, if there are no advantage to being in the EU, why have it at all. Countries do not just form some kind of union for the fun of it.
     
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    The question in the future will be is the single market worth it for England, hard question to say for sure, but I expect way down the line England will regret not joining the single market.
     
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    Osborne was staunchly in the remain camp, so him staying to fix a mess he wouldn't believe in certainly didn't help his chances.

    The only reason he wanted to stay was the remotely small hope of becoming PM someday becuase 3 months before the idea was still largely possible.

    DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY
     
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    LOL. The folks who were surprised that Brexit won and had no real plans if it succeeded....?
     
  18. MojoMan

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    Theresa May has scrapped the UK's Climate Change ministry. If only we had such bold and decisive leaders here.

     
  19. pirc1

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    I am not sure if climate change are man made or not, but I tend to believe it when over whelming number of scientists in that field agree on the subject, unlike many people in this country. If the changes are man made and changes the climate drastically, guess which country will be one of most affected? Oh that is right, it is the island nation of England, would be fun if they have to build walls around london. :)
     
  20. Commodore

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    just like saturated fat causes heart disease, all the experts agree...
     
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