David Cameron: Britain's EU Referendum to be held June 23

Which would be the truth. Also the truth is you think he learned new information in the last week unknown to him for the last 20 years.

 

So you were serious or still trolling? You didn't answer that question yet Sweet Tard. "Turkeys who voted for Christmas" was used by you in the correct context or not?

 

Which is basically what I said.

Except as of last week he might not have known that the referendum would pass and 20 years ago whether there would be a referendum or not.

Further given that Farage has essentially admitted he lied, or at least was very mistaken, about claims made in the campaign he very well might've been unprepared for the reality of the UK actually leaving.

 

Like what?

Your point exactly is what? It was a close referendum.

 

It sounds like those defending Farage are essentially agreeing that he is not taking responsibility to actual deal with the transition.

By stepping down he doesn't have to take responsibility for actions of his former party that may reflect on him even though he led them to their largest political goal.

 

So you just repeated what I said. What's the point in that.

"essentially admitted he lied" no he didn't


"been unprepared for the reality of the UK actually leaving." he's been prepared for a few decades now and wants to get on with it. None of what you are saying makes any sense.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...million-pledge-to-fund-the-nhs-was-a-mistake/
[rquoter]Nigel Farage has admitted that it was a "mistake" to promise that £350million a week would be spent on the NHS if the UK backed a Brexit vote.

Speaking just an hour after the Leave vote was confirmed the Ukip leader said the money could not be guaranteed and claimed he would never have made the promise in the first place. [/rquoter]

That he might've been unprepared for the reality of it passing and is now stepping down so he doesn't have to take the responsibility of implementing it or the criticism from if things go wrong.

 

Carswell is a Tory plant who's done nothing for the party. Nobody knows exactly what Aaron Banks is doing behind the scenes. What's wrong with Leave.EU's position? It's an umbrella group for several political parties from both the left and right of politics.

 

As an MEP he has no responsibility. As the leader of UKIP, he had no responsibility. As the former leader of UKIP he has no responsibility. HE resigned last year from being the party leader. None of what you say is based in logic or sound reasoning.

 

What was your point in your counter to my post if you agreed?

See reply to Dei above.

Yet by your own words he's stepping down so he doesn't have to take responsibility for if things go bad.

 

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So what is the point of him resigning at all then?

You're arguing that Farage is essentially irrelevant yet agree with my point that he is resigning to avoid responsibility for if things go bad.

If that isn't logic or sound reasoning you are still agreeing to it.

 

claim was made by Vote Leave which was the official campaign for broadcasting purposes. His was called Grassroots Out (GO). The different factions had disagreements on how to run their campaigns.

 

I said it above. Best for both parties.

I'm not arguing that at all. The media really went after UKIP and Farage. His political ambitions have been achieved, he doesn't really need UKIP and they don't need him.

 

I don't think he ever thought he'd win - it was all something he did for political power and along the way he made a lot of enemies and no one liked him, so when he finally won he could see that he was now useless and no one really wanted him around - so he declared victory and went back to the hole he came out of 20 years ago.

 

I will agree with you that the bus wasn't Farage's that said he had said before that millions of pounds from money going to EU could go to the NHS.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...unds-live-health-service-u-turn-a7102831.html
[rquoter]However footage from BBC Question Time on 9 June – just weeks before the referendum – shows the Ukip leader claiming the available cash was higher than £350 million and saying money should be spent on hospitals and GPs.

“Can we just get to the truth of this - £350 million a week is wrong, it’s higher than that,” he told the programme’s audience.

“FACT – absolute fact – from the official statistics cross-checked from the EU: we pay £55 million a day as a contribution. Some of that is the rebate which doesn’t go but our gross contribution is £55 million a day.”

“We should spend that money here, in our own country, on our own people,” he added.

When subsequently challenged by an audience member who said he advocated an insurance system and did not “believe in the NHS”, he said:

“Do you know what I’d like to do with the £10 billion? I’d like that £10 billion to be spent helping the communities in Britain that [the] Government damaged so badly by opening up the doors to former communist countries. What people need is schools, hospitals, and GPs. That’s what they need.”[/rquoter]

 

Did you know he never made that promise in the first place? It was on a Vote Leave bus, which as I've said on a previous post did not involve Farage. He said it was a mistake on the part of Vote Leave. Check your facts.

He's not even in government. How does quitting leading UKIP change the fact he doesn't have any actual governmental power?

 

Hilarious narrative they are trying to push. Deckard is the funniest. Any even good or bad that happens will be called a negative consequence of BREXIT for the foreseeable future.

It is irrelevant to the vote anyways. The vote was a single issue.

 

You're backpedalling. Your original point was that he lied that all the money (350m) would go to the NHS. He didn't make that promise.

His statement on QT says nothing about how the money should be budgeted - only that all of their money should be spent on their country - which makes sense.

 

Gee all those death threats along the way were sure worth it.

 

This whole thing in a way is kind of funny. It's like convincing a teenager in angst about how he should declare independence from his parents. "Hey look at the benefits! There's no curfew! They're not going to make you do homework! You can wear anything you want and hang out with anyone you want! Just think how great it would be if you don't have to hear your mom and dad nag you about stuff all the time."

And then when the teenager really does move out and ask you what's next, you're like f***, and bails.