At least DB's shown commitment to something. There are VERY few NFL players today who would go to this extreme to be one of the best at what he does. And Boston can become a legendary WR if he is in the right environment. Most NFL players mouth words of commitment, but DB doesn't talk and let's his actions (and his massive arms ) speak for themselves. Props to DB! Let's just hope Brees can air it out for him.
Too many steroids make your muscles to strong for your ligaments so you have to take human growth hormorne to make your ligaments get stronger. Then your head grows like a circus freak. I'd bet Boston pops an ACL this season and it will be from a simple cut or turn with no contact. He is to big, lean, and fast not to be on something. I hope he hasn't been hanging out with Ken Camanetti. (I got all this info from that SI baseball article with Ken---freaky)
Dang, the Chiefs are going to have to defend against THIS monstrosity? Oh well, he'll probably bust an acl this year. 101 freaking pills a day, what a freak.
I don't think he is juicing. There are just a lot of haters out there. Boston will be on my fantasy team this season.
He reminds me of Hershal Walker except alot more ripped. That man is taking something there is no freaking way a human can get that ripped without some crazy juice. Maybe he is injecting the blood of Orcs.
About the 40 situation, on an ESPN broadcast last saturday, they said Bill's return-man Adrian Brown is the fastest man in the league with a 4.18. By far the fastest 40 time I've ever heard of.
Yeah sure, he's the fastest man in the world, and I'm sure Paul Maguire and Joe Theisman were standing there with a starters pistol and a stopwatch when he ran it.
I ran a 3.8865 40, but I was counting 1-1000, 2-1000, etc. in my head as I ran. I'm not sure if that time can be counted as legal...
At Seville in 1999, Maurice Green ran a legal 9.80 100m. (I can't find his splits for his best time of 9.79.) <b>His 40yard split is measurable at 4.396 seconds.</b> So, you can forget anyone ever running below 4.2seconds in the 40. His splits for the first 60m were recorded as: 00-10m 1.86 1.86 10-20m 2.89 1.03 20-30m 3.81 0.92 30-40m <b>4.69</b> 0.88 40-50m 5.55 <b>0.86</b> 50-60m <b>6.39</b> .84 The right number is instantaneous velocity at the split. btw: anyone who thinks we can't use 100m splits for 40yr dashes should note that Greene's split at 60m is also his best time in a 60m race, and the world record in 2001. <b>Converting a 40m split to 40 yrds</b> converting meters to yards, Greene ran 43.7445 yards at the 40m mark, so we need to subtract those extra yards from his time.. Using his instanteously velocity at the 40-50m mark (.86m/s), his instantaneously velocity in yds/sec = .786 secs to cover those 10 yrds, or .0786 secs/yd given that: .0786 yds/s X 3.7445 yards = .294 seconds to cover the extra yds. So, subtracting the time it took to run the extra 3.7445 yards from his 40m split of 4.69, you get: a <b>4.396 time</b> in the 40yrd split. Even if we give Maurice Green his world record best start time in the 100m of 1.70s for the first 10m vs the 1.86s start at Seville...that still doesn't get Greene below <b>4.23</b> in 40yds
Further, this site lists the best splits by the fastest humans ever recorded. http://run-down.com/statistics/100m_top_splits.php Using the best splits by any sprinter, the world record fantasy 40m split is 4.45 seconds. Coverting to 40 yards, this fantasy 40yr dash = 4.16s.
Interesting stuff HP, I'd like to learn more about the 50 meter indoor specialists, its hard to find info on them. The 50 meter guys are short and stocky built for burst and quick top-end. The 100 meter specialists tend to be longer and hit there peak speed around 50 meters and hold it through the finish. Really different styles Carl Lewis is a prime example of a fast 100 meter guy who was a slow (relatively speaking) through 50 meters. I believe Carl still holds the record for fastest actual top-speed at little over 27 mph , which was why he was so successful that amazing kick. But fast is fast and searches constantly bring up the same names Greene, Montgomery, Bailey-- so who knows for sure. I'm sure a safe bet would be very low 4.2's in the 40. Here are some indoor records: Men (x-indicates world record; others are world bests) 50 yards -- Stanley Floyd, United States, 5.22, Jan. 22, 1982. x-50 meters -- Donovan Bailey, Canada, 5.56, Feb. 9, 1996. 55 meters -- Obadele Thompson, Barbados, 5.99, Feb. 22, 1997. 60 yards -- Lee McRae, United States, 6.00, March 14, 1986. x-60 meters -- Maurice Greene, United States, 6.39, Feb. 3, 1998.
KingCheetah, I used Maurice Green's splits for his 9.80 time, not Carl Lewis. Notice Greene's split at 40m (=43.74 yrds) was 4.69 and approaching .86s/10m (=.786s/10yds). At that velocity, he would have hit 50yrds in 5.18s, which shatters the time you had for Stanley Floyd. Greene holds the 60m World Record, so he's not just a 100m specialist. Also, your lists shows Donovan Bailey as a 50m specialist. Bailey was a 100m World Record holder, beating Lewis's best time. Not only did Bailey beat Lewis's 100m WR, but Greene's 50m split in Seville race beat Bailey's 50m World Record in the 50m. So, Greene beat both Floyd and Bailey in his 50yd and 50m split at Seville, and no one has beaten his actual 60m record. I think Greene is the best example to use to measure what the fastest 40yrd dash times can be.
Good post, HP. Yeah, the article I alluded to vaguely earlier in the thread, that I wish I could find but didn't, had quotes from a bunch of pro sprinters who regularly laugh themselves silly every spring when NFL combine 40 times start being publicized.
I agree Greene or maybe now Montgomery is most likely the best example. I was just using Lewis as a style example not as a debate point against Greene who is no doubt a quicker man-- I agree with everything your saying didn't mean to come across otherwise. If you ever want to see some mind boggling track times look up some of the wind aided records--- low 9 second 100's amazing. The Mph top-speed is really a different subject, but I threw that out there because I always found that interesting. D. Bailey described the importance of top speed best when he raced Johnson in that 150 meter match race. Bailey said something to the effect that Johnson was an endurance sprinter who could hold his top speed (around 22 mph) longer than anyone in the world. Bailey on the other hand could hit over 26 mph for a shorter burst, which is why he was so confident in that race. Johnson never really stood a chance to catch Bailey without that extra 50 meters--the muscle pull didn't help either. What we need is one of those classic "battle of the NFL stars" or "The NFL's fastest man" so we at least know who is the fastest in pro football.
