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David Aldridge Saying Yao Wants Tracy out

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by raheel1560, Jan 13, 2009.

  1. raheel1560

    raheel1560 Member

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    From his NBA.com article

    http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/01/13/daily.dose.011309/

    "The Rockets are putting a positive spin on this, but Waiting for Tracy is a play that nobody in Houston wants to see anymore -- up to and including the big man, Yao Ming.

    "They don't speak," an extremely plugged-in person tells me. "And Yao wants him out."
     
  2. AggieDentist

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    aldridge is full of it. i call bs.

    way to spell, raheel.
     
  3. The_Yoyo

    The_Yoyo Contributing Member

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    wow first i hear of this and its on the nba.com site not like espn or yahoo or anything.

    aldridge usually will only report things like this when he knows for sure he has a credible source you usually dont see him making wild statements usually like sam smith or peter vecsey
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    HOLY CRAP !!!

    That is what Doc Rocket was alluding to.......here is the full article.

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    lot of times, one win is all you need to forget your troubles in the NBA. Two and you're rolling. Three, and it's, "Who dares to play us in the first round?"



    But there are also times when a win streak is only a mirage, wet soap covering up hidden ugliness inside the window.

    This is Houston. And, yes, they have a problem. (God, I hate using that old, tired, trite saying. Please, help me come up with another one. Like, "Houston, why didn't they base a high-ratings series on your town?" Or, "Houston, what do you do with the Astrodome these days?" Anything new would be greatly appreciated.)

    The Rockets' recent uptick in play may have camouflaged their issues to those who aren't paying attention. But a season that began with such promise in the 713 is rapidly deteriorating. You get a gold star if you suspect Tracy McGrady is at the center of it all.

    After limping and gimping around on his left knee through December, McGrady was put on a two- to three-week rehab assignment on Monday to improve his conditioning. "Conditioning" was the word the team used, deliberately so.

    Now, in sports, you can be conditioning to rehabilitate a surgically-repaired part -- like, "Gilbert Arenas is still conditioning his knee." Or, there's conditioning when you're not in shape -- like, "David Aldridge is conditioning, and we hope he'll be able to finish the mile-and-a-half run sometime in the next decade."

    So, which is it with McGrady?

    "He's conditioning," Rockets GM Daryl Morey said Tuesday. "Tracy said it himself. He wants to do his off-season conditioning program. So that's what he's doing."

    That's great. Except ... it's not the offseason.

    "He couldn't do it in the offseason because of the (knee) surgery," Morey said.

    If this were someone else, it probably wouldn't be that big of a deal. But it's McGrady, who disclosed on the Rockets' media day, four months after his May knee surgery, that the knee was about "75, 80 percent," and also said he would probably need shoulder surgery after the '08-09 season was over, despite having had that cleaned out in the offseason, too.

    Hence, no offseason conditioning program.

    The Rockets are putting a positive spin on this, but Waiting for Tracy is a play that nobody in Houston wants to see anymore -- up to and including the big man, Yao Ming.

    "They don't speak," an extremely plugged-in person tells me. "And Yao wants him out."

    That's not likely this season, as McGrady's $20.3 million is toxic to too many teams' luxury tax plans. Next summer, though, when McGrady will have an expiring, $22.4 million contract, teams may well circle the Rockets looking to make a deal.

    It's not personal between Yao and McGrady. They like one another. But Yao's frustration is real. And Yao is not the only person that's grown tired of McGrady's self-diagnosis, his up-to-the-last-minute decisions on whether he'll play or not. This isn't questioning his toughness; McGrady took a bunch of pain-killing shots just to get through the first round of the playoffs. And it's unfair of anyone to judge McGrady on his ability to play well in pain; some can, some can't. Ron Artest wanted to keep playing on what the team is now calling a "stress reaction" in his ankle after gutting it out for a month, but he's been shut down for a week to 10 days.

    And it's not McGrady's fault that Artest is hurt, just as Shane Battier has been hurt most of the season, or that these Rockets -- who were so resilient last season in winning 22 straight without Yao for a good chunk of that streak -- haven't shown much of that resolve.

    But the sad irony is that McGrady has become Grant Hill, his former Orlando teammate who suffered through injury after injury after signing a huge, $93 million contract -- a physical deterioration that wore on McGrady's nerves as one Magic season after another was torched because of another Hill operation.

    One veteran scout who worked a Rockets game recently was shocked by the deterioration in the still-29-year-old McGrady's game.

    "I thought to myself, 'My God, he's old,'" the scout said. "It was amazing."

    You need to know who you can count on, and the Rockets have no idea if they can count on McGrady anymore. When Coach Rick Adelman pointed out the elephant in the room late last week, the team had to act.

    "The in-and-out was affecting the team," Morey said. "Rick wanted to put a definitive plan in place."

    Morey allowed that there's "a lot of frustration" concerning McGrady.

    "Everyone wants him to be where we know what he is capable of doing," Morey said. "I mean, he basically kept us in the Utah series (last year) ... both he and Ron were trying to fight their way through, probably coming back before they should. We were OK with that (before) because the doctors said they couldn't hurt it any more, which is still the case."

    In the meantime, there's still a season going on, and the Rockets, seventh in the West entering play Tuesday, still have a role to play. Maybe McGrady still does, too, if his knee comes around. During training camp, McGrady said his doctors put full recovery from the May surgery at six months, which should have had him full strength in December. Maybe three weeks of offseason conditioning are what McGrady needs.

    If not ...

    "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it," Morey said.

    That is exactly what Portland president Larry Miller said Friday about what the Blazers would do if any other team signed Darius Miles, putting his $18 million salary back on Portland's books after it threatened to sue any club that brought Miles in.

    We're still waiting to see what Portland will do.

    And Houston still waits on McGrady.

    Always, Houston waits.


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    DD
     
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    Whoa, maybe this is what Doc Rocket was talking about.
     
  6. gta

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    This is huge
     
  7. magnetik

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    out as in OUT OF HOUSTON or out as in OUT UNTIL TMAC HEALS?

    could spin it either way.
     
  8. raheel1560

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    Before this gets out of hand, sorry about the spelling. I was in a hurry and put it up...This is some big stuff...I will ask either Yao or Tracy tonight at the Lakers game.
     
  9. MD_in_Training

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    It's pretty clear that it's out of Houston.
     
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    Raheel: Make sure to ask Yao if he wanted McGrady out the past 4 years as well while T-Mac covered for him.
     
  11. MD_in_Training

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    Obviously if this was a routine injury, Yao would not have these sentiments. There is obviously alot more going on that we know.
     
  12. conquistador#11

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    yao always has the look of someone that does not want to be there,even when yao is standing next to his parents.
     
  13. redao

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    to be honest, how many of us here wanted TMAC out? I am with Yao.
     
  14. tofu--

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    I think it's BS, given that Yao always mentioned he's going to try to return the favor this year to T-Mac for always keeping the Rockets in the playoff run when he was out. I'm sure Yao is not happy but I can't imagine the Big Fella EVER mentioning to ANYONE he wanted someone on the team out.
     
  15. DudeWah

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    While you're at it, ask him if he's liked T-Mac making him seem better than he actually is all these years..
     
  16. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    I wonder if this has anything to do with what was reported last year in China about Tmac telling Yao to stop calling the team soft, or he would "ISO" him....

    Maybe Yao has finally had enough.

    FRICKEN ABOUT TIME !!!

    Changing of the guard, is a very good thing.

    DD
     
  17. MD_in_Training

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    And that's why looks can be deceiving.
     
  18. thacabbage

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    LOL, I don't think Yao Ming of all people is in a position to be dictating who he wants in or out. Give me a break. Has there ever been a less dependable 'franchise player' in NBA history?

    What a joke.
     
  19. DudeWah

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    Agreed
     
  20. codell

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    Aldridge has all the credibility in the world, but I am calling B.S. on this one.

    Yao is a much bigger person than to go to management, behind someones back, and ask that a player be sent away. That is primma donna stuff. I would expect Yao to go to Tracy with his concerns, which if he has, we would have heard about.
     

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