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David Aldridge predicts Steve Francis for Ray Allen

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocketsPimp, Feb 10, 2004.

  1. Jallen

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    If Rockets were dreaming of experiencing the Dream's time once more, the first thing is to trade SF3. Rockets need a leader like duncan or Iverson indeed. SF3 is a true man physically, but not a true man mentally.
     
  2. bigboymumu

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    Iverson? You gotta be kidding!
     
  3. JoeBarelyCares

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    Love that trade. Even without Daniels being thrown in (JJ could man the point?). Imagine surrounding Yao with two three point shooters like Allen and Lewis!
     
  4. sun12

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    R Allen is too old, close to 30. Lewis is better at this stage.
     
  5. sabonis

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    Ray Allen for Steve Francis?

    Uh...

    DO IT

    Stuart
     
  6. The Real Shady

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    I didn't think it would work but this trade came up as accepted on realgm.com.

    Houston trades:
    PF Maurice Taylor (11.8 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 1.3 apg in 28.1 minutes)
    PG Steve Francis (16.8 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 5.9 apg in 39.9 minutes)
    Houston receives:
    SG Brent Barry (10.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 5.5 apg in 30.8 minutes)
    SG Ray Allen (23.1 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 5.3 apg in 37.3 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +5.1 ppg, -2.7 rpg, and +3.6 apg.

    Seattle trades:
    SG Brent Barry (10.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 5.5 apg in 30.8 minutes)
    SG Ray Allen (23.1 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 5.3 apg in 37.3 minutes)
    Seattle receives:
    PF Maurice Taylor (11.8 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 1.3 apg in 45 games)
    PG Steve Francis (16.8 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 5.9 apg in 50 games)
    Change in team outlook: -5.1 ppg, +2.7 rpg, and -3.6 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    There were BYC players involved in this trade, so this trade is subject to the BYC provisions of the CBA. Due to Houston and Seattle being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Houston and Seattle had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out unless trade exceptions were used for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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    I wonder if this means that we could pull off this deal without having to use our trade exception. If that's the case then I'm all for it.
     
  7. The Real Shady

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    That's why Seattle won't trade Lewis. Plus, Seattle can replace Allen with Murray.
     
  8. SmeggySmeg

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    DA has he weekly chat question session tomorrow, somebody make sure they are him about any Steve rumours he's making up right now......
     
  9. The Real Shady

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    Nevermind.
     
  10. Q

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    MacBeth,
    That's some great stuff from you tonight, especially the last post about escalating trade proposals.
    Keep bringing the good laughs.


    As for Ray Allen, he would be God sent. And at 30, he is not old!
     
  11. nyquil82

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    so after we get allen and trade him for iverson and trade him for shaq and trade him for garnett, who what in the what now?

    all this talk about trade the past few days (with steve, unsurprisingly being in the center) will be highly anticlimactic if nothing happens.
     
  12. DavidS

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    :D Yeah! A true star SG, and a soild PG!
     
  13. Rockets2K

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    one question that noone is addressing.

    if we trade Mo....what do we do for consistent scoring from the 4?
    No one has suggested that we look for one...nor is there any inthe trade proposals that you guys are putting up.

    Surely(;)) you arent suggesting that we go with Cato and Spoon holding down the 4 fulltime?
     
  14. The Real Shady

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    If a MoT + Francis for Barry + Allen trade went down the Rockets would have to make a move to acquire another body to backup the center and PF positons. I'm sure Pike or Boki could bring in a halfway decent player that could give us some quality minutes. If not, you could always trade Cat in the offseason once Allen signs a contract extension with us. There are several possibities.
     
  15. gucci888

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    That leaves Padgett and Weatherspoon as our backup frontcourt and that cannot happen. As good as Allen and Barry are, I couldn't make the trade unless we get a solid 4 or 5 out of it too.

    maybe Steve/Cato/Pike for Allen/Lewis? I know, I'm dreaming.
     
  16. Rockets2K

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    I havent been keeping up with the salaries involved as far as other team's players are concerned....but without the max money that francis gets...and Mo's salary..woul dit be possible to get one without giving up Cat?

    He is waay too much of a bargain especially with what he brings to the court to give up readily on.
     
  17. HAYJON02

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    Ray Allen is so money. What a pickup that would be but we'd have to trade Mobley too so we'd basically be blowing up the team. That's more of an afterseason type thing. I want to see how this team finishes and performs in the playoffs before anything drastic happens.

    Remember last year when we were rumored to be trading for him?

    And would you guys rather blow up the team for Brand or Allen? Solid big or solid small?
     
  18. Clutch

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    How do you "predict" a trade in the offseason? Or are they predicting trade deadline deals? Wouldn't there have to be something that actually led them to believe that this would go down? Those of you who saw what Aldridge said... correct me if I'm wrong, but did he lead people to believe Seattle and Houston were talking, or were they just pulling these predictions out of their rears and saying that it just made sense for both parties? For example, Marc Stein was just speculating in his article today ... saying a Philly-Houston-Atlanta deal would benefit all and if it was there they would "have to look at it". Now someone was predicting that three-way?

    Sounds like these guys are just fishing for stuff.

    Re: Allen. The time to get him was last year, when he could have been had a lot cheaper. Boy did Milwaukee get screwed. Rockets were definitely involved in talks with the Bucks then ... though I imagine CD hung up when they wanted Griffin along with Cato and Mobley (ugh). Seattle pretty much stole him.

    It's an interesting trade idea... but would have to hinge on being able to move Mobley for a PG. I'll pass on a Mobley-Allen backcourt. You have to ask yourself also if you can move Mobley (and others) for a solid PG, then why not just play Francis at the 2? Allen is no doubt better at the position, taller, better shooter, and a much better fit -- little older though.

    All new backcourt next year... man would I be on board for that.
     
  19. DavidS

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    Allen/Lewis would be great! But not likey.

    I'd take Allen/Barry because it's more important to get your stars set in place on this team than worry about your role players. You can worry about that latter. It's called "fine tuning." So, we wouldn't be finished with roster moves. There'd be always room from improvement at the 4 and 5 (starter and backup).

    We took a big hit on this team when EG went bye bye...so, yes. That would still be an issue. But lets take care of our leadership problem first.
     
  20. MFW2310

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    Pffft. Rumours and speculations generate more excitement and semi-orgasms around here than actual trades. Also, When's the last time you heard ANY GM say let's cherry pick the other team to plug ALL our holes.
     

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