[David Aldridge] Grizzlies Open to Dealing Thabeet

This tells me that in 5 years there will be another 7 footer gangly kid that everybody thinks is garbage and they will take Thabeet over him any day of the week without thinking twice.

 

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A_3PO

You think that Thabbet contract is horrible from what I understood, but if you go look around the league you will see, that Cs are extremely overpaid, and the reason why that happens is because they are a rare specie.

I will give you Darko Milicic as an example.... He was a similar problem, he was drafted too hight for his skill set, people were saying that he is a bust, then the Wolves got him for 4M, people called them crazy, now he is a 9p 6r 3b in 26min, pretty good if you ask me.

I am not comparing them as players, all I am saying is that both of them were drafted higher then they should, but that doesn´t mean they are not going to be valuable, but I understand why they were drafted that hight.

The C spot in this league is horrendous.... you have guys with 0 offensive skill, making 5M plus.... this is the league we are in....

Another example that I can give you, to let you understand how bad the C spot is in this league.... Noah, he got an extension, 12M per, a guy that "just" hustles out there, he is all heart on the floor...... but he is extremely important for them, even without being Hakeem out there...

We need so bad a guy that can take yao C spot in this team, I am tired, and I think all Houston fans are, of reading, Yao out indefinitely threads, we need a Center.

I am not looking for extremely skilled Cs because there arent ANY, all we have is 7ft guys that can jump and block, and we need one of those guys to improve our defense going forward.

I can almost guarantee you that GREG OLDEN will have the entire league after him next free agency.... and we all know how risky can that be (injuries), but if that is a problem of the past, his signing can be the steal of the year easily.

I am not saying to sign a C just for signing, but I believe that Thabeet can be a better Chandler, a better Haywood, a better Camby and even a better Okafor (and if you notice all of them make huge money)....

PeAcE

 

Last I checked his contract isn't that bad and it's only for two years. I'd ship Jeffries out for Thabeet. Worse comes to worse, we have an expiring contract for next season.

 

Why would Memphis do this? You'd have to include first rounders.. which is the question. Would you trade a 1st rounder for Thabeet? They're not going to give him to us for free.

 

I thought they were looking to trade Thabeet for Telfair, who's little more than an expiring contract.

 

Wouldn't they want to clear up money to sign Gasol long term? Even if we offering them the T/E, that is free money right there that can help them setup their foundation.

 

Pure speculation by David Aldridge:

That would be a terrible deal for Memphis...

A TE is more valuable than just trading them an expiring contract.. but I'm still not sold on the idea that they'll trade him just to remove the salary. I could be wrong, of course.

 

If the Rockets were playing Jefferies more than there is no question that the Grizzlies would consider trading Thabeet for JJ. He give them another solid defender off the bench who can guard 3 positions, and the Grizzlies look like they might challenge for the 8th spot in the West.

Would they want a future first rounder along with JJ... sure they would but this move also cuts costs for the Grizzlies with JJ being an expiring contract next year.

The problem for this deal is mostly on the Rockets side of things. In order for the team to take on another "project" big, there needs to be short term consulation in the deal. I just cant see the coaching staff agreeing to take on another project like Thabeet, given the recent challenges Sikma and Adelman have had with Jordan Hill.

Then again, we have no idea if Morey and his crew see something nobody else does and want to take a gamble on the most challenging "project big" in the past five years.

My guess is that Morey is not a gambling man and wont deal for Thabeet unless its essentially a free-bee for the Rockets and they have room to take on salary next season.

 

A3p, I understand what you're saying about his skill and draft positioning. After his stint in the nbdl last year, I thought he was coming on, but its hard to do with a guy like gasol in the picture. The guy needs all the playing time he can get I think. His skillset is that of what the rockets can really use with or without Yao, now or in the future. Can you build a team around him? No, but you can build a team and he can be a big part of what his skills are and thats shot blocking and rebounding. If the rockets only have to give up and expiring and a young player, so be it. It would be a good move going forward.

 

So your saying that we get him and send him to the D league? Because he cant possibly (no one for that manner) develop sitting on the bench and not playing. Unless some other players go somewhere, dont see him making the rotation, at least initially.

 

My sentiments also. But if the Rockets want to blow the team up and shoot for a high lottery pick, then getting Thabeet and putting him on the court at least makes sense.

A "big" part of a team? I dunno. Can Thabeet become a serviceable backup C eventually? Maybe so.

I don't think he's worth giving anything up for. To me, it's more like you are taking him off of Memphis' hands and doing them a favor (saving $10 million). Give me an example of your trade concept.

 

More appropriate thread title:

Grizzlies Desperate to Deal Thabeet.

 

How about Jeffries, a second round pick, and some cash?

or

Patrick Patterson, straight up for Thabeet?

Thoughts?

 

Greg Oden? Really

Yeah he'll get inked for sure and be pursued greatly just like Kwame brown (who was relatively healthy btw)

Your other points are valid though

 

Lets trade for Gay, but keep our other SFs.

SF: Battier/Gay/Lee/Budinger/Williams

Now that is depth people!

 

Why is the Grizz lacking resources to train him seen as kool-aid? Heisley was so cheap he didn't want to give the rookie bonus every other team has given to their rookies since the beginning of time. You think he'll spend the funds necessary to give thabeet the 1-on-1 coaching he needs to develop his fundamentals? Look at Jordan Hill during the summer league, then look at Jordan Hill the past few games. THAT is the difference good development can do, which we have thanks to Carrol Dawson (and maybe Rick Adelman, I honestly have no idea).

Marc Gasol is an unfair comparison because he already came into the league after playing euroball for a number of seasons (and taking the ACB MVP along the way). Thabeet OTH played didn't even play basketball until very recently. So yeah, I think Thabeet deserves some slack instead of you bashing the daylights out of him.

So what's your point here? I'd take it as a plus.

I'm not saying he's gonna be a franchise changer. But the thing is, I think with his height and speed he can be a starter in this league. An average starter is a bust as far as 2nd picks go, but if we can get this starter on the cheap he is well worth getting.

 

LOL except that Lopez whacked him on the neck as he went for the dunk. More importantly, I liked how he didn't fall down and broke his ankle when Lopez slammed into him.