Do you really think Jeremy requires people to translate his message to mean "F U McHale"? Whenever he's spoken, nothing resembles that type of bitterness. I'm sure it's not easy for him to not play--especially when the team is in trouble--but I take him at his word that he will always do his best whenever called to duty. That is his brand of basketball. Jeremy Lin is probably stronger than we give him credit for.
Oy vey...did not realize he was averaging that many pfs. Gotta be one of the higher ones for pgs right? Numbers don't lie, he's doing better in mchales system than lin even though he's only been here for a little bit. Again, trade lin. Develop beverly, ab as backup pg and instant energy. Everybody wins and we don't wind up with a 8 mil backup pg
now to be fair, I have seen us LOFs do similar analysis for Lin and Parker/Nash/etc. lol However, its not the per 36 mins stat, which I really don't like. So many important variables are not accounted for when looking at numbers this way. See below how Bledsoe stacks up to Paul a superstar using per 36 mins: Eric Bledsoe: MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT 1332 6 13.4 0.451 0.7 1.6 0.433 2.6 FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PTS 0.795 5.2 5.5 2.6 1.4 3.3 15.4 Chris Paul: MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 1708 6.2 13.1 0.475 1.3 3.8 0.339 FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PTS 0.891 3.9 10.4 2.6 0.1 2.3 17.9
Seriously! I agree. Plus LOFs say that everyone embraced Lin when he got the opportunity to shine and played well in NY and were so supportive but yet here they put down Beverley for having some great moments that actually could get him a nice contract down the line (possibly starting on another team - I hope not, I'd like to keep him). So much hypocrisy in this thread.
No. The stats aren't skewed. DD was skewed. Kobe as a rookie was (A) just out of HS, and (B) wasn't very good. Everyone and their mother could see that Kobe as a rookie was basically playing just a tiny bit of his potential. While the same could not be said for a 22 yr old Budinger. Lin is 23 though, while Beverley's 24. Beverley's the rookie while Lin's been in an NBA uniform for 3 years, with 80+ starts. So for Beverley to compare favorably to Lin is a much more rational comparison.
Listen the hypocrisy is seeing "vet true Rox fans" posters rag on Lin all year long about his points per game, about how Lin has shown them NOTHING (despite 29 and 8 against OKC just days earlier), and in a blink of an eye, Bev's 0 pts 3 assists and a team loss equates to descriptions of "energy/spark" two nights ago (fair), "deserving of even more minutes" last night (highly questionable), to now "outplaying Lin" and "starting contract" (outrageous).
Again, you can choose to read it differently than I do but its much easier to say that he will do whatever the team needs from to get the win. He didn't say that, he said he will continue to play his brand of basketball, which is given that he wants to win, but again, just TO ME, it is more about how he will continue doing what he does best to help the team win. To each their own.
I like to make things simple. So basically Clutch said it was justified playing Beverley in the fourth Qtr because he has two distinct advantages over Lin: 1. Long range 3pts shooting 2. Defense But I just didn't see how it applies to Mavs game, because: 1. Dude had exactly 0 pt in 23 mins playing time and passed up numerous open shots. I guess we can all agree no matter how effective your 3pt shot is, you basically contribute nothing if you went 0-2 and passed up open shot. So either coach has to tell him to shoot more or he has to have more confidence in him to take those shot. Conclusion: his 3pt shot was no advantage, at least in this game. 2. On defense. Sure, Bev plays good defense. However, the reason Rox lost the other night was because Rox couldn't make stops and their offense was stagnant down the stretch. Mavs made all the shots they needed. and it was Dirk, Super Marion and Mayo killed the Rox. Last time I checked, Bev and Lin play PG. So I guess Lin's "inferior" defense was responsible for those guys going off on Rox as well. Or, if Rox plays bad defense, it must be Lin playing on the court? Is that it? And I read: "Of course, when he does play like he does against OKC, then it's a different ballgame, but Jeremy Lin has been inconsistent this year." Holy cow, that was really a tall order. So basically Jeremy Lin has to put up 29/8/6, in other words, super star like numbers, to warrant 4th Qtr playing time. How is it fair to any starting point guards in the league? Even Chris Paul can't have that number night in and night out, so I guess Clippers need to bench him in 4th Qtrs as well? How about Beverley who scored 0 pt and didn't exactly lock down Mavs offense and played whole 4th Qtrs. Anyone see the double standard here? Finally, lets face it, Clutch think compared to Lin, Bev : 1. plays way better defense (quote "distinct difference") 2. is a better 3pt shooter 3. slightly worse offense ability but not far off 4. has less turnovers while having same amount of assists if playing 36 mins. Somehow, he still think Bev is not a better player than Lin. Come on, man, call a spade a spade, don't be shy. In your opinion, Beverley IS a better player and a better fit for the Rox. Has some courage to say it. It is your opinion anyway and it is a fair game. Everyone is entitled his opinion. IMHO, You and some of the Lin fans are actually on the same boat. Just ask McFail to start Lin already and see what happens. It could work out for all sides, why not give it a try?
First off, you can confess now that you didn't listen to the interview nor have any clue what you were talking about when you posted this: I made reference to the per-36 minute numbers in the interview, and every point I made stands, rock-solid. Secondly, I said very clearly that Beverley has played far fewer minutes than Lin. I didn't say Beverley should be starting... I very much believe in Lin long-term and in his upside, but the point stands: Beverley has played very well, and you can argue (without having your credibility attacked) that he has been outplaying Lin lately. I don't expect that to continue... I expect Lin's three-point shooting to trend up and Beverley's to trend down (though I hope not on the latter), but the numbers are the numbers. Kevin McHale doesn't have reasons other than "winning" in mind for going with Patrick late, and he very much plays the trends he sees in game (if Beverley is providing energy on the defensive end, he seems to stick with him). All I was saying is Beverley has been playing well enough to keep Aaron Brooks on the bench and has been probably outplaying Jeremy lately. That should not get me such scorn ... especially when you look at the numbers yourself and say, "Beverly's [sic] numbers are still very good."
Entertaining your insulting generalization of 90% of Clutchfans (the side the roots for the team over the player) - I would remind you that Lin & Beverley do not have the same contracts, roles, or expectations. They are not measured by the same standards. Sorry if that bothers you.
Clutch thinks Beverly outplays Lin. He has no problem to bench Lin. How about starting Beverly? This tells you something: - Some posters like to use small sample size to your favorite when you like it. - Superb understanding of players development especially your starters. - When your back up score 0 pts, still have millions of reasons for defensive purpose to bench your 2nd best defensive player who is your starter. - This is an internet forum
