LOL WTF @ the comments over there. I bet they are saying to themselves "Let's rally the troops and burn this mutha down!!"
it doesn't matter if you agree or not. it's his opinion. you might have your own opinion. from the interview, here is my understanding on his view of beverley. with beverley, our offense wasn't dropped significantly but his defense is better. in other words (these are my words), our offense with lin may barely be better but defense was no near close to what beverley brought. i am an old school. i am all on defense. it's reason i said before i preferred JVG over RA. Although I think lin's defense is underrated alot by fans here, i will go with whatever our coach, mchale, believe. i can't stand for inconsistence.
^Ha... that Solidz75 character was harassing Jason Friedman this morning. Also... there was a guy by that name who got banned here.
Not following that. You claim McHale believes Lin to be an inferior player to his backup. That's a much stronger claim than simply saying McHale believes Lin to be a below-average starting PG (which would be enough to explain why he's getting below-average minutes). Supposing your suspicion is correct, that suggests there is some pressure coming from somewhere to continue playing Lin 30 minutes a game on average. This is where things start heading into "conspiracy" territory. Personally, I think McHale is fine with both players. He's not secretly wishing he can bench Lin for most of the game. Depending on the game situation and the matchup, he may think one gives the team a better shot at winning than the other. I don't get why that should be so controversial; I mean its not like Lin is an established vet. Sorry if that's a boring take, but that's just how I see it.
Well he either goes by another name these days or just lurks, but either way LOLOLOL. Time for a beer!
i don't think it's good for a team in either shot term or long term. a coach needs to stablize his rotation and clarify players' role.
It's not even true though. Lin is both a better defender and also better floor general. It's why he's the starter. Lin had a 96 defensive rating last year, which was excellent. He led the D-league with a 93 defensive rating as well, and also led the league with a +13 net rating. Him and Asik are both rated in the top 20 for defensive player of the year based on defense adjusted plus/minus and above replacement player. Lin is a good defender. He just doesn't "look" it to subjective coaches with confirmation bias, and who think Douglas or Beverly who "look" active are having better defensive success
Not sure I totally agree. I think a coach should have some flexibility to mix things up depending on the matchups and how certain players combinations are playing. But that's a valid criticism. Stability has its benefits as well.
Ok we are getting somewhere. So if you agree that he could see Lin as a below average starting PG then why is his comment about Lin would rather score 29 points at the expense of a team win so hard to believe??? Look if I think a player is below average and trying to go Lebron on me, I know most likely it is going to make us lose! Oh that felt good.
it's all opinions. nothing is right or wrong. whatever #s you bring up are all #s. those #s are crunched by some experts with certain formulas. who decides those formula? of coz those experts. #s are meaningless until you interpret them. that means you add yourself as a factor in interpretation.
right on. All this Beverly is a much better defender etc are all just opinions until we get some stats! This is a good start.
What's hard to believe is that McHale thinks Lin would rather score 29 points than help his team win. This is how you and many others interpreted his throwaway comment. But it could just as well have been that he thinks Lin would sometimes rather playing his "brand of basketball" than how McHale wants him to play, and McHale has to remind Lin that playing more like a floor general will be better for the team. This interpretation is perfectly consistent with what McHale said in NY and what he's said previously about Lin. Your interpretation is needlessly adding new drama into their relationship for which there's no evidence. I mean, who can possibly think that Lin isn't a team-oriented guy that desperately wants to win? He may now and then lose sight of how he needs to play to achieve that goal, which is totally normal for a young player, but it doesn't mean he's a selfish guy who doesn't care about winning.
flexibility is for in case. ocassionally it's ok. if it becomes a day in and day out routine, we should reconsider our approaches. for examples, if mchale does believe lin is a starting pg material, letting him grow is a better approach. pain is a natural part of growing. win or loss with such young team with such young pg means nothing to me. in the last game, no one would have ever known what could happen if lin closed out. it could be a win and it could be a loss. it is exactly same as in the game vs orlando. it could be a loss or it could still be a win. since he changed his closing out game rotation, we lost a chance to see what lin can really do.
All of these PB>JL comparisons are based on only 1 or 2 games. How about all the games in which Beverly played worse than Toney Douglas? Just ONE game is enough to prove someone is better. Short attention spans? .... You Betcha. Short Attention Spans? .... U Betcha.
Clutch and the hosts compared the current PG situation to Kenny/Cassell. A more recent similar situation is the 2004/2005 combo of Sura and Mike James. Mike James often finished games when matchups made his ball pressure and quicker foot speed useful. There are numerous examples of starters who play 30+ mpg who don't always play crunch time. Adelman used to play Bobby Jackson instead of starters Jason Williams, Mike Bibby or Doug Christie in Sacramento. As I said, Parsons, Asik, Patterson all sat their share of "crunch time" this season, too. It doesn't mean that those guys won't eventually get a bigger role-- they just need to earn them by demonstrating greater consistency and ability to help the team win in a variety of situations against a variety of opponents.
Look I am not going to get into it with you all over again, you can interpret and soften it however you want. You can't change my mind, I yours. Lin even came out and said loud and clear he will continue to play his brand of basketball, he is fine with getting benched, but he will continue doing what he does best and that to me is a big F U to McHale. Now, you can pretend everything is well in la la land, I will use my judgment based on the comments and words people chooses. They are all adults, articulate enough to say what they want people to take away.
i don't believe it is a good approach. occasionally it's fine, such as one of your starters gets burn badly no matter how hard he trys. it's typical and super bad mismatch. the last game definitely is not a bad match at pg position. regarding mismatch, sometimes, i am thinking why we have to adjust to other team and why we can't make other teams adjust to us. for example, if they go small, we can just pound inside with asik and d-mo. we may give up some on other end but it may be evened out if we do our things correctly.
In this case definitely not. If mchale was both coach and GM, Lin would not have been signed to begin with or at least would not have started at the beginning of the season. Look mchale never thought that much if Lin from last year and first impressions are usually the lasting ones in life.. I personally don't care who starts, it's the quality of the minutes that count for me... Especially in crunch time. I would have no problems and I have said many times if Lin had a well defined 6th man role like OKC Harden, Ginobilli, or Crawford but got quality minutes and stretches. I could see him playing very well alongside the second unit (delfino as outlet shooter, robinson his underneath dump off, and smith his PNR setter) who would look to him for leadership and wreck havoc on opposing second units, potentially extending whatever lead Harden and the starters got for us.
