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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Dec 9, 2011.

  1. conquistador#11

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    we can trade harden too. because when beverely was in and harden was out, that's when beverely was shooting better and assisting. There is little drop off from harden and beverely either if you look at certain games.
     
  2. vlaurelio

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    Harden and Beverly play the same postion :eek::eek::eek:
     
  3. tinman

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    Newbs need to take this as a compliment.

    Kenny/Sam won 2 championships and outplayed Kevin Johnson, John Stockton, Penny Hardaway

    That was the best PG duo in the history of the Rockets.

    CLUTCH CITY.
     
  4. raskol

    raskol Contributing Member

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    The comparison may be flattering, but Clutch did not give Lin a compliment in that interview, you know that.
     
  5. tinman

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    Clutch won't give credit until credit is earned.
    I trust his analysis cause he pretty much watches every Rockets game.

    you need to start worrying if Clutch makes analogies to Matt Maloney, Brent Price or Moochie Norris.
     
  6. AggNRox

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    nothing about lin. it looks like Clutch is really high on beverley. he is just one inch short to say beverley should start. according to his view on beverley. i don't understand why he is not entertained with an idea we should start beverley. if his evaluation is right, i don't see any reason we shouldn't start beverley and it will be huge mistake made by mchale.
     
  7. raskol

    raskol Contributing Member

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    But Beverley has earned it already? Clutch is obviously entitled to whatever opinion he has of Lin or any Rocket, I disagree quite strongly, that's all.
     
  8. tinman

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    Praise? for good play?

    Kenny Smith Only Fans never caused a ruckus when Cassell went in for the 4th.
     
  9. dharocks

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    lmao you know EXACTLY why.
     
  10. raskol

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    Lol. I met Kenny up in Sacramento back in the day.. Was a big fan. Got his autograph. Anyways, no not for praising but basically saying there's not much difference between Lin and Beverley... It's so frustrating to have people underrate players who you know to be good. Yes, it's just my opinion, but frustrating nonetheless. Lin's been playing pretty good lately, there was no need to knock Lin by saying he's inconsistent and that we lose nothing by benching Lin.
     
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    Do you have the crunch time minutes that Parsons sat? I only remember the the 2nd heat game where Mchale went with Anderson in the 4th. I don't think you can include parsons in this conversation.
     
  12. Clutch

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    LOL... a compliment... what compliment were you looking for?

    I talked about Chandler Parsons as a trade asset. I talked about Donatas Motiejunas not hitting threes super effectively in his 4 games as a starter. I talked about Omer Asik possibly not playing because he wasn't hitting his free throws. Do I have some grudge against those guys? Because that's what you'd be claiming if I said any of those things about Lin.

    Everyone's tired of the credibility attacks for the invisible "agenda against Jeremy Lin" nonsense.
     
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    I thought that was in reply to tinman's comment about Cassell/Smith comparison, and he was saying in that interview you were not exactly giving Lin compliment. Don't think the poster was looking for it, nor you needed to.

    I too, felt a little bit surprised, that how we kept talking about consistency on the one hand, and very generous to give high evaluation to another young player with much smaller sample size and less flashes, on the other hand.

    As for agenda or intention, I am always in the opinion, that's the most useless point to discuss. Because nobody can prove anything, not even his/her own intention, how can we judge others' motives?

    So, discussion about Lin or the coach, shouldn't be about like/dislike, but rather differences in the view of coach's decision or players' performance etc.
     
  14. raskol

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    I never said that you had to give him a compliment, but the original poster said that it should be taken as a compliment, I said that it wasn't. And noone said that ANYONE has an agenda against Lin, stop putting words into my mouth. It's the constant underrating of Lin, no matter what he does, that I'm not happy about. And once again, no I don't think he's a superstar. no, he hasn't played like a star this year. yes, he makes mistakes. no, he doesn't have to be in in the 4th quarter. yes, I've supported Beverley since day 1 (look at all my posts in re: Beverely). BUT yes, we lose an integral core member of our team when Lin goes to the bench.
     
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  15. Carl Herrera

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    Clutch called Parsons "very attractive."
     
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    FYI Lin and Beverly are not as good as Sam Cassell.
     
  17. real_egal

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    He is. I agree :)
     
  18. Second_Cousin

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    Clutch, when you go in front of a mic, you obviously have the right to express your opinion but I also wonder if by being the owner of this site, people take your opinion to be that of the majority opinions expressed here.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but you thought that if Lin plays like he did against OKC, your assessment that it's okay for him to be benched would be different.

    Lin played well in the OKC game because he hit huge shots in the 4th. How do you know that he wouldn't have stepped up to hit those types of shots again in Dallas? He had 14 pts in the 4th in Dallas just several weeks back. If his buzzer 3 had counted (and it should have counted), he wasn't that far off from the game he had against OKC through the first 3 Quarters.

    What does Lin have to do in your eyes in the 25 mins of play time spread out over the first 3 quarters in order to get the nod in the 4th? Why would you be so quick to bench your starter in crunch time who has played every game this year and developed chemistry with the other starters, and instead place so much trust in a rookie player whose been in the league for just a few weeks?
     
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    You are making too much sense....
     

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