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DA's first appearance for Heat

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by davidwu, Mar 4, 2006.

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  1. SamFisher

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    And he's mediocre at best while doing it, and even that's an exaggeration.
     
  2. KingCheetah

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    DA is playing quality solid minutes on a stacked team there is no way around that fact. He could be very helpful for the Rockets right now with with T-Mac being out, but JVG hated him (maybe wrongfully so ?) so he wouldn't be playing.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    4ppg, 26% shooting, 27% 3P shooting in March.

    Man was JVG an idiot to not give this guy a roster spot.
     
  5. blahblehblah

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    SamFisher, when are you gonna learn and stop doubting these players and start doubting our coach!! Dont you know bench warming, little used, overthehill or underdeveloped, but most importantly unproven players are all HATED by JVG and arent succeeding and given a fair shake/minutes all because of JVG! Geeze I thought you learned by now! I mean lets just look at all those you were wrong about ! Remember Mike Wilks! it was JVG who held him back! Remember Eddy Griffith, it was JVG who wouldnt give him another chance! Remember Reece Gaines! JVG wouldnt give him minutes! Remember Barret! And OF course I know YOU remember your "bet" and the Great Bostjan Nachbar! Hell he even had his own nickname BOKI! (ok thats pretty gay sounding, buts not to digress) It was JVG who held him back and wouldnt unleash his talents!

    Many esteem posters have noted that these young players were held back and someone "couldnt develop" them. Whats the common theme here... JVG! Surely its his fault and soon I'm sure Derek Andersen is just another example .
    Hell Im starting to see the chants by a few enlightens to "free Lampe!" Because we all know (And you should too!) its JVG's fault they arent good players, getting a chance! :eek:
     
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    Truly, a rookie after my own heart. ;)
     
  7. blahblehblah

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    lol thanks. :D
    Unfortunately despite my joined in march of 06 stamp, I was around to see and post in the "Boki should start over Jim Jackson," "start reece gaines!" "JVG dont know how to develop young players" & the endless threads regarding E.Grifith over the past 3 years.
     
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    I have been around since '99 and have yet to see a single thread about "E. Grifith." If I come to find out we spent 3 number one draft picks on this mystery guy I'll be pissed.
     
  9. serious black

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    Despite being a huge supporter of EG all those years ago, in hindsight I wish we had spent those three draft picks on the mysterious E. Grifith. Things could not have turned out any worse than they did...
     
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    E.G. is really the equivalent of having "E.Grifith" at least for the Rockets that is! :D
     
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    Which coach are you talking about? The one who brought DA here in the first place, or the one who shipped him out for...who, I forget.

    DA is apparantly so useless that he's playing in the 4th against Pistons now. Apparently he has no trouble passing to Shaq too.

    I'm waiting for someone to point out he shoots 1 for 4. ;)
     
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    got rejected by big ben wallace
     
  13. SamFisher

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    Miche- you can't still thinke he had much trade value after his mediocre showing over the last month and a half or so - granted, it was hard to tell that he'd be THIS bad to the point where he started racking up DNP-CD's - but I thought it was obvious his value was rock bottom earlier this season.

    Anyway, the point of getting rid of him was getting his contract off the books - not to capitalize on his negligible value. Do you want to pay his salary for 1-4? I sure don't. IF I need some mediocre 4th Period minutes - Ryan Bowen fills that role.

    I'm glad he's out of here. Now if we could just find some sucker to take Rafer's deal......
     
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    next year when tmac and yao are both healthy hopefully. rafer i think will end up being an above average PG. his FG % will go up slightly. and his assist numbers will go up to about 8 with probably a few less minutes.
     
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    Well, actually he wasn't playing garbage minutes. That 1-4 is more like 1-3 or 1-2. But that's not the point.

    I certainly won't miss him, but I also somewhat indifferent of trading him for nothing from keeping him. He has players option next season, and that's it. Keeping or getting rid of him doesn't make a whole lot of difference (exp saving les some $), especially considering we have about 15m salary never played a game for us this seaosn. We may package his expirng contract in a trade, we may use him for the tanking job this season, who knows.

    Yea, consider his spot is already taken by Rynbo, maybe it's best to get rid of him after all. :p
     
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    Excellent post.

     
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    David Wesley was mired in a horrendous shooting slump for the first month of the season, yet Derek Anderson stood out as the worst player on the floor, IMHO. At least Wesley had the good sense to focus on other parts of his game when his shot wasn't falling.

    Far be it from me to question Pat Riley's player rotation, but I don't see how a guy shooting 29% (since he joined the Heat) should be taking 9 shots per game away from anyone on the current Rockets team.

    And don't start with any talk of him scoring 20 points yesterday. The last thing we need on a team with Yao Ming is a shoot-first guard chucking his way to a 6-17 game.
     
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    Why can't we give a guy his due when he once did something positive for his team? Do you realize:
    1) His average shot attempt with Heat is only 5.3?
    2) Wade was in foul trouble last game, that's why DA step in?
    3) He hit 50% of his 3s, 5 of them.
    3) Heat does have Shaq, who is a monster in his own right in the middle?
    4) DA was obviously a big part of their WIN last game.

    I'm kind over arguing about DA right now, but people reharsh same cliches over and over, it's unbelievable.
     
  20. SamFisher

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    What cliche is that? His pathetic performance with the Heat is not a cliche. It's fact, just llike Rafer going 0-11 tonight, or Mike James having an excellent season.

    If he had put up 6 weeks in Houston analogous to the last six weeks in Miami (25% shooting, horrendous PER, just as bad statistically as you could possibly find in the NBA, out of the rotation until Posey went down) -- we would have NEVER found a sucker to pay him next year. Fortunately, Pat Riley happened. Hope he enjoys Anderson this year and next as much as you enjoy this one game.
     

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